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Post by ChrisK on Feb 22, 2006 19:10:24 GMT -5
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You know, the Warmoth stuff, the whatever stuff.
It has to be something that you built/assembled or changed something visibly discernable on.
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Post by ChrisK on Mar 30, 2006 0:30:40 GMT -5
And the ones that don't turn out could go in the Hack Shack.
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Post by Runewalker on Mar 30, 2006 12:30:23 GMT -5
ChrisK hasn't got much traction on this idea and it is over a month old. I suspect others think this is a good idea, but he suggestion box may not get much traffic? Anyway this is a great idea, perhaps with some forums: Show us Your Babies:- Guitars - Franken, ground ups, assembled, customized
- Amp Projects
- Effects Projects
- Wiring execution
- Gallary of "ugly" guitar nominations, not necessarily yours
- Bloopers, or maybe that's Chris' "Hack Shack."
This already happens in a less organized way as you see pix of projects in amps, or guitars, or electronics, or even the coffee shop. This would be very interesting to see the products we all discuss, a 'gallary' for the 'artists' to display their portfolios, and a way to get an even a fuller, yet visual picture of the disturbances to emotional stability this hobby yields. You, know, the 1000 words thing (or the equivalent of just one of my wordy posts). RW |
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Post by ChrisK on Mar 30, 2006 13:52:57 GMT -5
Rune,
The question goes to an absolute vs relative. Today, we'all can search if'n we want to find historical reflections of the search topic. And search we should (management by fishing).
But we can't just go to "here" if we have a redundant (newbie) question.
In Wiring Execution or (Wiring Technology), pictorial posts that show what the switch(es) and pot(s) look like, how to split a humbucker (both coil shorting and preferred not), what the pictorial switching of a MegaSwitch really looks like (for those that use things in an untoward way), how an ON-ON-ON mini toggle works and what it looks like, and what-nots. And simple part descriptions (vetted properly amongst) that explain pickups/types, pots and caps (and their effect thereon), and "stuff".
In Guitars, "I built this."
In Bloopers, don't try this at home.....
(I had to use what-notsand stuff in a sentence, I spent a day and a half in a training course on a product line apparently made up of "what-nots" and "stuff" at its atomic level).
I'm not wanting to replicate everything "anet" anew, but just enough so that we don't have to tell most to "go fish" when all they needed was a quick sardine.
You know, post "substance" sticky!
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Post by Runewalker on Mar 30, 2006 14:48:01 GMT -5
CK: ...absolute vs relative... Creationism vs. Evolution? a Smackdown Downtown? "...And search we should (management by fishing).
(I had to use what-notsand stuff in a sentence, I spent a day and a half in a training course on a product line apparently made up of "what-nots" and "stuff" at its atomic level).
I'm not wanting to replicate everything "anet" anew, but just enough so that we don't have to tell most to "go fish" when all they needed was a quick sardine....You know, post "substance" sticky!" That's quite a beatnik riff. I thought I was scatological but I bow to the master. On the wiring, I was thinking more "hey, check out this spagetti bowl" rather than, "Ok kids this is how you do it." Not the whole schmatics stuff, just "oh boy, what was I smokin'" or "Sarge would be proud" pix. See mommy, look what I did!. But if you are saying, [go here] - a visual reference compendium of parts and structures, that is also great, and surely much more useful. Seems a little different than show and tell, but a very useful reference, perhaps a subset of a set of basic concepts, definitions, and short course theory that would be excellent to point to in discussions. If you spend time on the board going through the histories, there is a remarkable amount to be learned. However, it's a forum so the pearls are spread widely and chaotically through 1000s of post. Realistically, I find myself looking for a former chunk of wisdom I knew I saw someplace, and either don't find it by searching or have a number of false starts. Sucker's gettin' purty big. Extracting key chunks and archiving them is very useful. The schematic board is beginning to take this form and much quicker to go to than quasi-random searches. |
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Post by ChrisK on Mar 30, 2006 16:24:36 GMT -5
Recursive is. (Reiterative/reentrant?)
"Stranger in a Strange Land" is a good place to start (to go askew).
Askew is.
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Post by pollyshero on Mar 30, 2006 17:15:40 GMT -5
Hmm... Not sure if I Grok all of that, but I'd be wholly supportive of a forum that shows the result of using a belt sander to make your new pups fit.
It would be refreshing to see "WHAT THE F...??!!" some of us are doing outside the realm of what square folks call "normal", and equally entertaining to see the more conventional fruits of other's labors.
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Post by sumgai on Mar 31, 2006 2:15:16 GMT -5
I'd say that there's room for both ideas! The original Show And Tell as envisioned by Chris, and a moderated Reference forum as bespoken by RW. I'm up for both of those!  If this thing takes off, I'll volunteer to comb through the site and look for technical tidbits that should be in a FAQ And links, lots of links to good, educational stuff. (Now, lessee, where can I use "what-nots"?  ) sumgai |
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Post by Runewalker on Mar 31, 2006 11:12:37 GMT -5
Actually I'm giving credit to CK for both of these ideas. The idea of a gallery is a no-brainer as there are some industrious and creative folks here who deserve a venue for showing their art. Pretty standard adjunct, eg. Warmoth, ReRanch etc all have galleries of completed, and sometimes in process, projects.
The referrence articles, glossary, component visuals, etc. was merely my probably poor interpretation of CKs beat poetry. If that is not what he meant, then like most poets, he leaves interpretation to the readers, while he paints word landscapes to stim and provoke both the gorrilla and etherial minds. (Ok, I'm no beat poet, but could I get a couple of snapped fingers and coffee anyway?).
The offer by Sumgai ( a narley SomeDude, if ever) to gather, gleen and crop the little jewels throughout the board is huge. There is such great repository of information here, that unfortunately requires at this point much prospecting to discover. And face it, few bother. I am sure there are others that could volunteer and perhaps leverage the editing chores.
That offer is very much appreciated and reminds us of what a unique community this is.
So far though, I guess this needs Random to actually pull the trigger to create? Or more responses and advocacy to create critical mass? Where do we go from here?
RW
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Post by RandomHero on Apr 1, 2006 10:21:49 GMT -5
I'm on it, guys. I've seen the thread and like the idea a lot, just deciding on some other streamlining things. I'm working 6 days a week now, and though my job is awesome, it leaves me exhausted. Just rest assured that it -will- happen.
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Post by Runewalker on Apr 1, 2006 11:21:34 GMT -5
Thanks RH. As Tex Hornet says: "Workin' for a livin' shore gets in da way of Livin'" Who came up with the idea of working for a living anyway? Of course you need some way to pay for all the goodies bought on your employee discount. Working at an instrument store would be, for me, the dangerous equivalent of working in an ice-cream shop -- six months and 80lbs later there would be some serious junk in the trunk to haul around. Seems like there are a couple of proposals here: A Reference Section for definitions, visuals on components, key theoretical concepts?, electronic primers? Previous posts of import, etc. Not sure about all the rules here. Perhaps the true electrodudes could weigh in here -- unk, JH, CK, Sumgai, Chesh, and whoever else in that elite club my feeble memory missed. A Gallery Section that may or not have sub-sections for: Guitars, amps, effects, other?. RW |
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Post by JohnH on Apr 2, 2006 8:07:40 GMT -5
I think those suggestions are great, gallery and reference. I wouldnt have too much further substructure to them, so there'd be less chance of things getting too complicated or in the wrong place. The reference section could have new posts, or links to old ones. The Gallery would be for whatever we want to show off, without a big submission or a question inplied.
John
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Post by sumgai on Apr 2, 2006 20:06:40 GMT -5
John,
Links back to the original post and thread (Q and A) is probably better than just a blurb about "how to do this...", I hadn't thought of that. But I *think* there's a need to use both in a FAQ. A short summary to give the gist of a topic, and a link for in-depth study. Providing that such a link exists, and that it points to a relevant posting. (Not too much off-topic by-play to distract the viewer who's after some particular knowledge.) One of the nice things here is that while there's no "anchor tag name function" like there is in HTML, each post is numbered (Reply # such-and-such). That makes it real easy to point out exactly where to go. Plus, there's no real need to limit the links to this site only, right?
And don't worry about my ability to catch and catalog things, it's one of my specialties. Call me anal-retentive-guy, if you wish. ;D But I do anticipate that there will be some initial consultation amongst the cognoscenti before such a reference work is actually fired up by RandomHero. We don't want to lose anything, sure, but we also don't want to present confusing answers to anyone, either. (Some of the WIKI pages are worthless for this very reason.)
sumgai
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Post by sumgai on Apr 2, 2006 20:13:38 GMT -5
RW, Oh, yeah, I guess I got carried away and mispoke myself. I knew that Chris had said it first, but you clarified it for all to understand. I should have said "... as envisioned by Chris, and further refined by RuneWalker." ;D Sorry 'bout that.  sumgai |
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Post by ChrisK on Apr 5, 2006 20:04:58 GMT -5
Don't care 'bout money, since I have enough,
Don't care 'bout credit or coupe, since I have enough,
Don't care 'bout being "right", just correct. All dogs grow old, all tricks are anew.
Everything that we do creates history. If we can stand on the shoulders of the giants that preceded us, and enable those in the future to do so as well, good future is.
Enable, enfluence, effect!
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 15, 2006 23:04:55 GMT -5
I'm definitely going to be a regular poster on the "gallery of ugly guitars" Hopefully there will be a forum, or at least a place to share the ugliness, for me to post.
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