?? Source for Long Bushing Mini Toggles

[Runewalker]

This question came up partially as some discussion on the HBD design in the schematic section.

The bushing lengths of mini toggles are typically in the 5-9 mm (.23 - 3.8th ") range. This is mostly fine for strat style pick-guards or Tele bars, but inadequate (except at the margins of the 3/8th inchers) for back routed wood guitars.

In modding back-routed guitars, you must usually remove some control cavity wood, and risk punching through the front finish. The short bushings are espcially dicey for carve-topped bods like LPs.

While it is possible to find larger, higher amp capacity toggles, about the bushing size of a switchcraft style 3-way.... these also take up a lot of cavity and front control panel real-estate.

Is anyone aware of a source for mini-toggles with 1/2" (12-13 mm) bushings? If so, please respond with a link.

The normal switch configs for mods include (at least) 2PDT - on/on, 2PDT, on/on/on, 4PDT, On/On, and sometimes 3PDT, On/On. Perhaps there are more?

[michaelcbell]

www.e-switch.com/pdf/100.pdf

check out the B13 bushing option (not quite 1/2", but close.)

[sumgai]

Rune,

Digikey appears to have 'em, 0.468" is the tallest bushing, will that do?

dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T072/1758-1763.pdf

Also, risk of punch-thru approaches nil when you use a depth-stop jig.

HTH


sumgai

[Runewalker]

sumgai said:

Also, risk of punch-thru approaches nil when you use a depth-stop jig.

SG

Of course, but bears repeating. I also need to look for Forstners with smaller or non-existant end guide-points. (sorry to dip into the Luthier content out of school).

On the DigiKey site:

I am specifically seeking 4PDTs.

For a 4PDT you are thinking ITT No. CKN1503-ND on page 1761? It is a little odd in that they reference Pix T for the actuator (on the previous page?) but nothing for the bushing. However the pix of T shows a .448" bushing. Is that how you read it?

$16 bucks for a mini, vs. $6.50 for a .35" bushing mini.. Sobering, but the extra 1/8th of an inch would give greater margin for protecting already finished bods, and help accomodate carved-tops.

I already have to buy the long shaft PPs for LPs and since I can only find them at Guitar Electronic places, I already pay double ---- even though most I have seen are Alphas --- a brand (but not a part) that Mouser stocks.

Wine and whoa ..... uh Whine and Woe.

Thanks SG.

RW

[sumgai]

Rune,

Not sure about which model switch I was speaking to, but after seeing your price, I didn't bother going back to check - I'd make a switch out of a tin can before I spent that kind of money! That's almost as bad as Monster cable and their outlandish claims!

So why not bite the bullet and contact some of the luthiers around the net? I looked at Warmoth's site, and they don't have it, but USA Custom Guitars has a page full of links to suppliers, that might be worth a shot. Perhaps asking a smaller one-man shop might yield results. I know that Brian Moore and Godin both use these switches for some of their Synth Access circuitry, perhaps others can be found will will be willing to part with the hidden information of where to find rear-mounted switches.

Hell, what's it take to get Gibson to give up a gen-u-wine Gibby part? And you know, you could always get destructive creative and buy a cheap DPDT long-bushing, a 4PDT short bushing, and marry the desired parts together...........

Or you might pull a Cheshirecat and find a supplier who will sell you a larger quantity of them, and you in turn could then sell some of them off to the other GuitarNutz! ;D

HTH


sumgai