Locking Nut on a Bigsby
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Post by Locking Nut on a Bigsby on Jul 13, 2007 16:29:55 GMT -5
Would there be any significant advantage to adding a locking nut to a Bigsby, or Licensed Bigsby, vibrato?
I have a friend who owns a Soloist with a Floyd and he says that its a pain to tune partly because of the locking nut. On the other hand he gets crazy dive bombs in comparison to my Bigsby.
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suicufnoc
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Post by suicufnoc on Jul 13, 2007 17:58:50 GMT -5
Id think that would get you half way to being a floyd(makes sense). Bigsbys sorta suck anyway.
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Post by sharpgt on Jul 13, 2007 20:50:29 GMT -5
the advantage of a locking nut is to hold the strings in place so that they do not move back and forth over the nut causing breaks and tuning changes. the floyd gets more divebomb action because it has more freedom of movement, like most can take the strings down to slack. the strings would fall off the nut without the lock. a locking nut would help a bigsby to stay in tune when doing serious bending (a real challenge with a stiff butt bigsby) but would not give any more dive-bomb-ability.
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 14, 2007 0:15:28 GMT -5
I don't know what you are talking about. My guitar stays in tune just as well as my Jackson that has the Gibson style bridge. I tune it once a week and usually its still in tune.
The only problem I ever have is with the bar. When I go really deep on it the bar bends and I cant get it to the deepest note possible. I was just thinking that the locking nut would help because it wouldn't allow the strings to slide through the nut.
I dont know what your problems are with Bigsby's but, besides the bar, I love it.
P.S. I started the thread. for some reason it says that I'm a guest.
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Post by UnklMickey on Jul 14, 2007 6:48:27 GMT -5
Frizzle Fry,
Your logic is sound. Locking the strings at the nut, will give you slightly more bend with the same amount of "action" from the Bigsby. Likewise, moving the tail-piece as close as possible to the bridge would decrease the overall length of "tensed" string. That also gives you a slight advantage.
Without fine tuners at the bridge, a locking nut is a nightmare, you don't want to subject yourself to.
It occurs to me, a possible solution would be to use a taller spring. This would allow you to go deeper, because there would be more rotation in the Bigsby, going from normal to full compression of the spring. I'm only speculating here. I've never owned a Bigsby, or worked on one. I've only seen them in the shoppes.
Cheers,
Unk
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Post by sumgai on Jul 14, 2007 15:52:02 GMT -5
vF, Thanks for 'fessing up as to your ID, I was wondering who would sign up for a single post, then delete themselves..........  Obviously the Forum software farted at that moment, switching the topic title in for your name just when you hit the Post button. We'll live with it just fine, I'm sure.  ................................................ unk, In the mid 70's, I was working in a shop, and had maybe 12 or 13 years experience under my belt. A fella came in with a Joe Maphis Mosrite, which I immediately lusted after, o' course. He had roughly the same complaint, he couldn't go down very far with the Bigs'brato ® (sumgai, 2007), and wanted help. I had a box full of old Honda motorcyle parts laying on the garage workbench at home, and got a wild hair where the sun never shines, and you can guess what happened next. Yep, I did it...... I tried a valve spring out of an old Honda 50 Cub, and it fit perfectly! Jacked that handle right up there in the sky, it did. Worked beyond anyone's expectations, too. He could mash everything down more than a 4th, and return to pitch (or very nearly so), and with ease. The roller bridge helped, but the strings did nearly fall off the nut. (Remember, Mosrites had a zero fret, the nut just barely held the strings in place.) To keep the strings from falling off, I advised him to simply tie one of those cheapie nylon strap capos around the headstock behind the nut, and he went for that. A happy customer walked out the door that day, mumbling something about showing steel guitar players a thing or two! ;D Good times, good times.  sumgai |
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 19, 2007 23:52:59 GMT -5
Hmm, Ill have to look around for some taller springs. My guitar has a roller bridge but not a zero fret. The largest drop in pitch I've measured is 2 1/2 steps. Maybe my friend's motorcycle shop might have a few springs I could use.
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Post by Ripper on Jul 20, 2007 9:11:19 GMT -5
Sumgai...
Not to get off topic but, are you a motorcycle nut as well?
If so, we need to start another pro-board. Ive had a few rockets in my day.
Honda CB400F
Kawasaki KZ1000ST
Kawasaki GPZ1100
Suzuki GS1100E
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Post by sumgai on Jul 20, 2007 13:19:06 GMT -5
deep,
Nope, sorry. Not since the 70's, when I found it getting harder and harder to carry my FTR and BastardCaster to a gig on the back of any two-wheeler! ;D
HTDD
sumgai
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Post by benitosuave on Jul 27, 2007 14:59:19 GMT -5
I always thought that Bigsby was designed to be a lot lighter and not really for "dive-bombs" and metal stuff.
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Post by mlrpa on Jul 30, 2007 22:32:53 GMT -5
Dive bombing on a Bigsby? Why not just get a floyd, and be done with the stupidity?
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Post by vonFrenchie on Aug 2, 2007 15:11:44 GMT -5
You cant put floyds on full hollowbodies. At least I dont want to try on a brand new guitar.
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Post by sumgai on Aug 2, 2007 20:16:24 GMT -5
vF, You cant put floyds on full hollowbodies. Well, yes, you could......... but the first time you yanked on it, the guitar would become a really hollow body, no? ;D sumgai |
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Post by gfxbss on Aug 18, 2007 14:00:03 GMT -5
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Post by vonFrenchie on Oct 8, 2007 22:19:57 GMT -5
Well, yes, you could......... but the first time you yanked on it, the guitar would become a really hollow body, no? You got me there. " really hollow body" would be an understatement. That thing would be a wooden bowl. |
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Post by axekicker on Apr 27, 2010 1:57:14 GMT -5
Get some Big Bends Nut Sauce, don't wreck your neck. Besides, you can't go crazy on Bigsby that it should go out of tune anyway. Just use a little lube and you'll be fine. A roller nut might also do the trick, but try to route your neck.
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Post by axekicker on Apr 27, 2010 1:57:39 GMT -5
Meant to say try "NOT" to route your neck.
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Post by Retnald on Oct 18, 2017 20:08:57 GMT -5
I don't know what you are talking about. My guitar stays in tune just as well as my Jackson that has the Gibson style bridge. I tune it once a week and usually its still in tune. The only problem I ever have is with the bar. When I go really deep on it the bar bends and I cant get it to the deepest note possible. I was just thinking that the locking nut would help because it wouldn't allow the strings to slide through the nut. I dont know what your problems are with Bigsby's but, besides the bar, I love it. P.S. I started the thread. for some reason it says that I'm a guest. |
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Post by newey on Oct 18, 2017 21:37:36 GMT -5
Hi, Retnald. Don't know how you became "deregistered". Did your registration here get deleted somehow? Did you have to re-register?
Deletion of the registration is the only way I know of that a member is reduced to "guest" status.
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Post by reTrEaD on Oct 18, 2017 23:37:19 GMT -5
Newey, did you notice that post from Retnald is entirely a quote of vonFrenchie's post (the third post in this thread) and nothing else added? I think Retnald isn't actually the threadstarter here. vF was.
To add to the confusion, it would seem Retnard managed to delete his account after making his post.
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Post by newey on Oct 20, 2017 6:02:06 GMT -5
RT-
Right you are, I missed that last line from VF's post.
Guests are not allowed to post, but if a member posts and then deletes his registration, the post thereafter shows "guest" as the author.
We haven't heard from VF in a while, but I guess it was him that de-registered. And then retnald, in turn.
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Post by b4nj0 on Oct 20, 2017 10:09:22 GMT -5
I guess that it was one and the same author?
e&oe...
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Post by sumgai on Oct 20, 2017 13:45:58 GMT -5
vonFrenchie is still a member in good standing in The NutzHouse.
I don't know what happened in the case of Retnald, but I'm sure that they are two different persons. If vF had forgotten his password and signed up under another name, he would've owned up to it.
sumgai
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Obviously the Forum software farted at that moment, switching the topic title in for your name just when you hit the Post button. We'll live with it just fine, I'm sure. 
