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Neither these jazz or jag squiers have a trem...at least they could have put on the superior strat trem so you could play surf on the things...LOL...and I'm a fan of squiers....shame...
They were always kind of weird guitars turning up here and there...but really, how many tracks can you positively identify by ear as a "jazz/jag" sound...where as a strat is unmistakable in many guises...some odd fish and some poor engineering, but they are cool to look at and a jazz can be relatively decent to play.
What ever happened to imagining guitars that never were with a classic feel like this...
Ok....sure no trem...but the squier 51 was a great idea for a guitar with a twist...this was a real success, but they ditched it apparently.
See that look on that girls face...she is sad this model died before it's time!
Other guitars that never were like the surfcaster and talman series were kind of cool too.
Now...if squier made an affordable version of the old semi 'starcaster' I might actually be interested perhaps.
But the more recent squiers have lacked a bit IMHO compared to some of the stuff they have come up with in the not too distant past...like my contemporary mahogany strat that I play these days...a fantastic guitar, classic but with some great unique looks.
Perhaps the squiers were putting the real things to shame a little too much there for a while.
Ya, I saw sumfin' about the new Squiers, the Jazzmaster model in particular... and was kinda excited...
..but then, I noted that although it had Jazzmaster pickups (and not P-90s), it had no tremolo -- so much for my Surf -style guitar... and having a toploader bridge installed, I expect it would be an expensive proposition to swap it over with a Jazzmaster-style tremolo (involving routing-out the "box")...
...and as it's a new model, I dunno if it's going to be like the other Squiers in terms of $$$. I have my Bullet and and Affinity Strat that are both Squiers and they are good as gold for me (although I can tell the difference when playing one of them compared to a MIM or MIJ version)..
So, has anyone sighted or played any of these yet? ...and/or is there some $$$ info available? I might yet get motivated and see about the trem... and hold fire on the Junglemaster (maybe).
I've decided, on the strength of this thread, that I'm going to put together a left-handed Jaguar and play it upside down. It's alternative-rock without trying to 'feed off' some sort of pseudo-retro vibe, it's grunge without conformity, it's Jimi Hendrix but with a different guitar, it's unmistakably Fender with the Gibson Thunderbird look (for the kids), and it's the classic-guitars ethos of Keith Richards/Izzy Stradlin/countless other guitar heroes that have some degree of kudos.
It's a little cynical to do so, but if I'm going to be a rock and roll hero damnit, I'd better approach it like one.
I've always been fascinated by the reverse strat look...I even have a cheap lefty somewhere in bits come to think of it...but the more I played with the idea, the more I wanted to mod it...better higher fret access made it look phallic on paper, controls under the arm, trem bar in the way...tuners that turn the wrong way (I even have a set of reverse tuners somewhere I think)...
The Jazz is not that much better...but still as an "image"...
I've been doing some net surfing lately for parts...and came cross these many and varied jazz's...this one caught my eye as being an improvement...
They have P-90 versions with a jazz tremolo in different colours...can't vouch for the quality.
But this one is the cheapest ($179), being a natural finish they are going to have to be more select and solid wood (ash). The neck is compatible with replacement strat necks, the pups are standard HB so infinite choices in that department...and they have left the upper bout blank so you could go nutz with switches up there with 2xHB's!
The strat trem is superior really...I've played a vintage jazz a friend owned decades back and it was a bit of a dog in many respects, especially sustain and such (and they are renown for that) as well as tuning stability...this kind of 'strat' version does have many advantages plus the ability to upgrade things like trems or simply block it off.
But they also have many models that have the jazz trem and p-90's for not much more as I say...
I was listening to "Slacktone" the other day and I suppose you really can tell a jazz sound if you try...but it isn't the greatest or most versitile guitar other than it's retro cool looks...might take more than retro cool looks to be a rock star and not be laughed at with an upside down version...plus step on your cable and that scratch plate could be history!
I see they have some interesting hard tailed "tele" ersions as well of the Jazz. As for the Jag...there seems so much wrong with them to me, the pickups seem lame, the bling over done and the scale length anti-fender and that is where a lot of that fender 'spank' comes from!
Upside down jazz/jag....well, I really don't know if that's a winner.
When lpf3 and I were at the Fender Museum in June, we saw a white '62 Jazzmaster Cash used to record "I Walk The Line".
I'm old and I remember that song when it was a hit - that rendition was recorded in 1956 (Yes, I'm old) So, recording that on a '62 Jazzmaster presents a host of problems.
I looked up the song on Wikipedia which said that it was recorded by Cash many times over the years. I'm guessing the Fender Museum™ (wanting to present a more prestigious image) tells people that they have the guitar Johnny Cash used for that song (1972 maybe ??) but it is definitely not the guitar used on the original rendition. Well I guess I have totally derailed this thread. Sorry about that. Still it was a story that had to be told.
As I nudge the discussion back this way a little...
After finally getting my hands on a Squier J Mascis Jazzmaster a couple of weeks ago and spending a couple of hours trying out the sounds, etc... I decided that with my other guitars, I don't really need this Jazzmaster, 'coz the sounds I was hearing aren't too different from anything I can already get with 3 guitars(!)... but remember this guitar has different pickups (amongst other things, I understand) to the early-model ("real") Jazzmasters.
With that thought in mind, I've this notion to go back to the drawing board again... and revisit some thoughts I had earlier in this thread. Specifically, with re-postioning the pickups somewhat on a standard Stratocaster-style guitar, viz:-
Now, where this gets interesting is that I've recently seen/heard how this can make a significant difference to the sound (and you can get that 'bright twang' that the Jazzmaster often gives us). Have a look at/listen to the following:-
...and take particular note of the change in tone around 1:42 - 1:44. As he slides the pickup down, (maybe) you'll hear a ringing harmonic that sounds like the Jazzmaster 'twang' (well, MORE so than you normally would on a Strat, I guess, as the pickup is moving through a 'magic point').
Anyway, just thought I'd pop through an update... 'coz the experimenting/research never ends, as most of you well know