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Post by Yew on Aug 22, 2010 4:27:38 GMT -5
Hey guys, since i finally have a spare pickup, and a spare guitar to put it in, Ive decided to make a frankenstrat. The bad news is Im not sure what to do with it.
However I would like you to suggest stuff for me to put in electronically
Im going to be wiring it with A filter'tron pickup and possibly a single coil in the neck. The filtertron will be converted to 4 wire and the more switches the better...
Yew
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Post by newey on Aug 22, 2010 10:40:17 GMT -5
Sorry, Yew, but this didn't belong in Collaborative Efforts. Any number of recent schemes suggest themselves for a SC plus HB. My recent "One HB to the max" thread could give an idea for the HB, and the SC could be added via separate switching.
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Post by Yew on Aug 23, 2010 4:25:49 GMT -5
Okay, I had the idea to try and do somthign like the Pot luck guitar, but istead of mailing the guitar around the world, everyone just tells me what they would do. But you're right, it is definately much more of a wiring thing
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Post by peterrabbit on Aug 23, 2010 15:08:50 GMT -5
Hi yew.
Can we assume you've already checked out Seymour Duncan, 1728.com (wolf's place), Rothstein Guitars, Guitar Electronics, Acme Guitar Works, DGB Studios (schematics for everything you can think of), WD music Products, Stew-Mac, etc.? Tons of ideas all over the place!
Good Luck
Peter
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Post by Yew on Aug 24, 2010 5:48:57 GMT -5
Yup, Chacked all those sites, but now the problem is a cant decide what i want :/ so ive decided to give you guys the oppotunity to shape my guitar for me
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Post by peterrabbit on Aug 24, 2010 12:33:03 GMT -5
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Post by newey on Aug 24, 2010 14:26:28 GMT -5
Yew-
It's a bit difficult to help without some idea of what you want, sound-wise, out of the guitar. The only other option is a scheme to give all possible combos of a SC and a HB- we have those as well, if you want.
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Post by irwired on Aug 24, 2010 14:26:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the fun link. Does drool hert a keyboard?
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Post by Yew on Aug 24, 2010 16:07:59 GMT -5
At the minuite im wondering if it would be possible to make a humbucker out of one of the Filter'tron coils, and the single coil,
im thinking coil tap series/parallel and out-of-phase with its self plus any other cool stuff i can come up with
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Post by chuck on Aug 24, 2010 18:14:44 GMT -5
most anything is POSSIBLE , and wiring the coils together should be a simple thing .... but that doesn't mean the results will be pleasing
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Post by jcgss77 on Aug 24, 2010 19:14:41 GMT -5
I definitely suggest that if you have 2 single coils, put them side by side, like a humbucker, and you can do single coil, series and parallel, out of phase, and have a volume and a tone, you can also add a rotary switch to use different cap values, the list goes on.
I have a cheap (5 dollar) g. burton guitar, and the single coils it had were WEAK. So, once upon a time I was broke (really?) and had sold all my guitars other than that one. So I put the bridge and middle pu's together, wired straight to the jack with no pots, and had one hot hb! Man, I couldn't believe how good that junky old guitar sounded! All I have to say is, if you have 2 good sc's, and want to do this, you will not be disappointed, I am sure.
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Post by newey on Aug 24, 2010 19:15:19 GMT -5
yew- You seem to want guidance . . . and you seem to want it "extra-switchy", no doubt so that all your friends will know it's a "custom". ;D ;D Just kidding, I am actually a big fan of switchy. Switchy is good. So I got yer guidance right here, Hoss! UnklMickey's Hum-SingStraight from the Unk, one of our past Masters around here, with a modded version courtesy of our current Master, JohnH. This requires a Superswitch. What I would do, for the extra switchy version, would be to eliminate the OOP setting at position 4 on the Superswitch, in favor of putting both coils in series, with one coil of the HB bled through a cap (value tbd). Then add a separate phase switch for the neck SC, thus adding several OOP options. Add further: ChrisK's famed "Free Woman Tone" set-up on the tone control (another switch!). Top it off with a "direct out" bypass switch for the bridge HB, taking the V & T pots out of circuit. There. "Extra-switchy"! Oh, and for the full-on G-Nutz version, add a DP3T momentary switch (i.e., on/off/(on)) to disconnect the output, giving you a handy "Standby" setting for stage use in the center, Guitar "on" to the left, and momentary kill switch on the right side. EDIT: No, I said that backwards. "On" has to be the center position.
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Post by jcgss77 on Aug 24, 2010 19:20:12 GMT -5
yew, what kind of music do you play mainly? Or better yet, if you are in a band, what does your band play?
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Post by JohnH on Aug 25, 2010 5:50:16 GMT -5
yeah..id forgotton about Unkl's design. And i still quite like the one of mine at the end of the thread. Its not too complicated, but it has big range of adjustments, and optimal hum cancelling when you cut the bridge to a single coil and combine with the neck. the blender works on other designs and is fun to play with John
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Post by ozboomer on Aug 25, 2010 7:19:04 GMT -5
However I would like you to suggest stuff for me to put in electronically Something I'd toss in here (as someone who's only been doing the switching thing in guitars for a couple of years)... is for you to think about what you're trying to do in developing this 'Frankenstrat'. Good thinking, I'd say, to explore what's available/what people like for inclusion in your ultimate design/layout... but what do you want this 'Frankenstrat' to DO for you? What are your priorities for all the work that is to come? - Are you looking for combinations of pickups/components as an exploration/learning exercise only?
- Are you looking to make a "workhorse" instrument (wiring-wise) that you'll use for recording? ...for live performance?
- Will you need to change sounds quickly or will you be setting-up the sound you want some time before you actually need to use it?
- What are your constraints (time, $$$, available tools)... and what about the scope (for example, will you consider routing-out the body if you can't currently accommodate all the electronics you want)?
As is often the case with these sorts of things, it's probably a GoodThing TM to have some idea of what you want to actually achieve before you start so you can eventually determine if you've found out what you want... or have achieved the sounds you're looking for... or if you've actually succeeded in achieving what you wanted... 'coz the worst thing would be to have gone through all this work and to end-up with a million switches.. but you can't actually use (or you find that you don't want) all the features you've built into the instrument. Like many people here (and some have been at this caper a LOT longer than I have!), I've been doing my mods as both a learning exercise and to determine what features I (dis)like in my guitars... and although I'll probably always tinker around, I'm now coming to develop a fixed list of features/mods that I will always include/make to any guitar I have; for example, the use of a treble bleed on a volume control... or the provision of some means to include a series connection between pickups. Anyway, just sumfin' of a suggestion... Always the philosopher, me... ;D John
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