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Post by angelodp on Nov 4, 2010 1:39:27 GMT -5
Hi, can I please run this by keen eyes. I have an ES-Artist 335. Its set up kind a funny since I pulled out the active eq circuit. I gutted that board and its now stock pickups but only has neck volume, bridge volume and master tone. I want to take it to 50's vintage wiring with the added tone back back in there. I have the before and after layouts. Does it look correct. Oh, and I want to add a 500k as the reconstituted tone pot for the bridge pickup. The other pots are all 300k. Just want a bit more kick .... or is it better on the neck?? Thanks
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Post by newey on Nov 4, 2010 8:09:10 GMT -5
Ange- Welcome back, old buddy! I trust that you have read JohnH's explication of the difference between "modern" and "50's" wiring? guitarnuts2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wiring&action=display&thread=1885I mention this because you said you wanted to have '50s wiring, but your diagram shows the more modern approach, with the volume pots before the tone pots. Your diagrams are OK so long as one recognizes that all those grounding points on the back of the pots are where the shields from the shielded cable runs are grounded, and that the wires running through the shielded cables are not grounded to those points. (I had to look twice at that, at first it looked like way too many things were grounded) As for using just one 500K pot for the tone, I doubt that will make enough of a difference to be noticeable. To brighten things up enough to notice, you'd need to switch both the V and T pots to 500K. With a 500K tone pot and a 300K volume pot, the overall resistance is around 400K, you probably won't hear much difference. Also note that, with 20% tolerances on these pots, your 500K pot may actually be anywhere from 400K to 600K, and your 300K may range from 360K to 240K.
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Post by ashcatlt on Nov 4, 2010 10:22:05 GMT -5
newey, I'm seeing the Tone's connected to the wipers on the Volume pots, just like what JohnH has for 50s wiring.
I agree that just one 500K pot won't make a whole lot of difference.
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Post by Yew on Nov 4, 2010 10:48:21 GMT -5
Especially if yu have the Pot on 10!
the scematic looks good too, i might have to steal that drawing technique
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Post by ashcatlt on Nov 4, 2010 11:00:32 GMT -5
Wait! Just to be annoying, 500K||300K can't possibly be 400K (or even close). I has to be less than 300K. It will be somewhere between 150K and 250K, but I'll let you do the math.
yew - It is when the Tone pot is at 10 that we would be most likely to notice the difference between the different values.
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Post by angelodp on Nov 4, 2010 11:30:23 GMT -5
Good to connect with the brain-trust again....you guys rock. Yes indeed the shielded runs carry signal and the dots show where the shields are grounded. It is my understanding that in the 50's wiring the signal from the pups goes to volume first, is that not correct. On that 500k , ok I see that now... I'll stick with the 300k pots as this guitar sounds amazing right now. BTW this guitar had those fine tuners on it for years... they look so cool.... but man are they tone robbers. I finally pulled that junk off and put on a standard stop tail piece and the tone was night and day... truly. This guitar now sings.
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