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Post by sbgodofmetal on Mar 6, 2011 16:02:08 GMT -5
first off i need to ask are the bobbins of tele bridge singles any larger than a strat single... now if they are could you still fit them in the pup slot of a strat pickguard without reshaping the guard, if so this is what i want, a overwound tele bobbin on a strat flat mount alnico v staggered poles and a strip of 1/8ths thick figured maple over the top of, and shaped like the bobbin and the coils wrapped in cloth tape... can it be done
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Post by newey on Mar 6, 2011 18:48:54 GMT -5
I don't know, I've never tried to fit a Tele pup into a Strat guard. And I don't have an extra Tele pup lying around to check it- they're all installed in guitars (Plenty of Strat pickguards around, however . . .)
I'd say first step, google for "Tele pickup dimensions" or some such, then for the Strat dimensions. This ought to tell you if they're close enough that a bit of pickguard modding would do the trick, or whether major surgery is required.
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Mar 6, 2011 19:21:09 GMT -5
thanks for the help i'll go do that
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Mar 6, 2011 19:41:51 GMT -5
tele specs 0.752'' wide X 2.866'' long strat specs 0.610'' wide X 2.595'' long.. ''without cover'' which leads me to belive it would fit with a possibility of minor shaping on the guard at the least but no way to test at the moment
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Post by newey on Mar 6, 2011 21:39:04 GMT -5
Bear in mind that the mounting is different, Tele Bridge pups mount with 3 screws in a triangular pattern. This means not only shaping the hole to fit, but also drilling 3 new holes in the guard- and you'll have 2 empty holes from the original Strat mounting.
I mention this because your first post made it sound like appearance was a concern.
Aside from that, you'll need approx 1/4" more in length and about an 1/8" in width, so it's doable- but not without reshaping the guard.
If you want to avoid modding the original pickguard for resale possibilities, you can always pull it and use another one for the shaving job.
If you really want to go whole hog, you might be able to get a guard custom made to accept the Tele pup, although price might be a deterrent there.
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Post by ijustwannastrat on Mar 6, 2011 23:35:17 GMT -5
Also, you might need to reroute the body. The tele pup's bobbin is shaped oddly.
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Mar 7, 2011 0:31:12 GMT -5
Also, you might need to reroute the body. The tele pup's bobbin is shaped oddly. it's not so much the bobbin as it is the base. i found pup kits at stewmac and what i'm thinkin about doing is ordering one tele bridge pup kit, one strat pup kit two spools of pup wire (incase i mess up) and a few strips of 4''x6''x1/8th'' maple and cut out my own bobbin and flatwork mounts. |
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Mar 7, 2011 0:38:09 GMT -5
using the maple as my bobbin and flatwork mounts will make them unique and of my own design at that but i'll have a fat overwound tele bridge pup with a strat pup flatwork mount just a minor bit of reeming the pup mount holes and ehrrgo... i did a lil' researching inbetween posts
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Mar 7, 2011 0:47:44 GMT -5
if you'll notice i'll come up with some doozies but i assure you they're not posted without many hours of thought i've got a.d.d. and when i get an idea my mind goes into a singular overdrive mode until it finds a way to make the idea work although sometimes i'll need outside input and i'll often post it first to see if its been done wich is a very good practice to have dont you think??? but this should work but i'd still like everyones take on the subject so keep the replies a coming guys
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Post by JFrankParnell on Mar 7, 2011 11:48:24 GMT -5
i took the SD lil' 59 out of my old telecopy and crammed it into my strat. You have to dremmel the pg a bit, and route a little bit, not very much out of the bridge side of the body. You only need to remove a little bit out of there, i used a dremmel. And, it has different holes. I dont have a good pic of the insides, but it does work:  |
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Mar 7, 2011 14:19:59 GMT -5
i'm just guessing of course but are those 2 switchs coil taps
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Post by JFrankParnell on Mar 7, 2011 15:54:10 GMT -5
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Mar 7, 2011 17:05:25 GMT -5
thats really neat and i like that split pickguard i'll have to try that one
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Post by JFrankParnell on Mar 7, 2011 17:35:14 GMT -5
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Mar 7, 2011 17:35:40 GMT -5
i have pretty much determined that i'm gonna buy sheet of 1/8ths thick curly maple backing for an acoustic cut out a custom pickguard and 3 sets of telebridge bobbins and custom sized strat single flatwork mounts to minimize the amount of needed space
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Mar 7, 2011 18:05:15 GMT -5
what i was going to do is switch out the 5way for a 3way eliminating pos, 2&4(pos1, bridge. pos2, middle. pos3, neck) and switch all 3 pots with p/p's, the vol, is a neck add, tone 2 was a bridge add, and tone 1 is a mutli value tone, down is .020mf and up is .001mf. so now you get, 1-b, 2-m, 3-n. or b+n m+b m+n b+b n+n standard tones are .020mf neck & .050mf middle, pull up on neck tone for .001mf
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Post by sumgai on Mar 7, 2011 21:58:02 GMT -5
^^^^^ That's gonna hurt, when you try to change to a combo that requires pulling one pot up, pushing another pot down, and flicking the 3-way to something else. How you gonna do all that on-stage, in the middle of a tune, in front of 200 paying customers... answer me that, eh?  Seriously, you can make anything you desire, it's your gig, but in the interest of 'usability during a performance', take a word of advice - don't simplify your guitar's wiring to the point where you can't operate it easily and quickly. Like I said, that can end up being counterproductive when it comes time to play in front of an audience.....  HTH sumgai |
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Mar 7, 2011 22:59:51 GMT -5
well for one i'm not in a band but i do understand your point. the reasons behind it is i don't like the humcancel sound of a strat although it can still be done this way, i mainly just play for my 2 year old what i'm gaining is bridge & neck in series plus all 3 pups at once eliminating positions 2&4 is just my personal preferance they just don't appeal to my taste
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Mar 7, 2011 23:27:38 GMT -5
here's another question. can a tele bridge pup fit into a humbucker cavity with out rerouting cause i was sent a link on carvinbbs.com to an ebay store that was selling plate mounts to retrofit single coils in a humbucker slot i cant post the link but to find it go to carvinbbs.com-scroll down and click on carvin guitars-find the thread called''has anyone ever converted a bolt to a'' click on this and the link is on the 10th post down by a user called treg
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