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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 1, 2011 21:39:32 GMT -5
like the title says, how about a concept section where users who whanna build a custom of their very own can post on it, see if its been done, troubleshoot problems, ect.. all in one area, so they wouldn't have to keep track of individual threads. but instill certain rules for that section, any ideas???
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Post by sumgai on Apr 2, 2011 0:18:43 GMT -5
like the title says, how about a concept section where users who whanna build a custom of their very own can post on it, see if its been done, troubleshoot problems, ect.. all in one area, so they wouldn't have to keep track of individual threads. but instill certain rules for that section, any ideas??? You show us a concrete business plan, we'll put you in charge of it. sumgai
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 2, 2011 9:26:54 GMT -5
basically you take key topic threads and roll them together kinda like the Wal-Mart/Sams-Club, of the guitar forums world. a one stop thread covering luthiery and finishing, wiring and modding, parts inqueries and advice. but it'll be strictly for new guitar builds, not revamping an old already existing one.
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 2, 2011 9:37:17 GMT -5
like lets say for instance i'm currently in the concept and design phase of building a strat bass(in which I really am, hence the idea of the concept section). I could come to that section and post about my project, as well as ask questions on how to wire such a beast, get finish tips and tricks, even advice on which woods to choose, ect... ect.... Kinda what the entire site is but in one place for new builds only
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 2, 2011 9:46:41 GMT -5
it'll go by the same basic site rules as the other sections, like no flaming other users, no threats against other users, no soliciting of drugs ya know basic forum rules, with the added rule of new builds only. users can reference existing guitars to aid in the actual build but the thread cannot be about that existing guitar.
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Post by newey on Apr 2, 2011 18:10:22 GMT -5
Hmmm.
The way that things have sort of evolved here, not by any grand design but just by happenstance, is that someone starts a wiring thread about any wiring issues/questions involved in their new build, a thread in Lutherie about any building probs, and then posts the final build in the Gallery, with links back to the other threads.
You know, when someone posts in the Lutherie section, Cyn1 comes a running. Some folks only look at the wiring section.
So, not trying to pooh-pooh your idea or anything, but I'm wondering if it's really an advantage or not.
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Post by lpf3 on Apr 2, 2011 18:23:14 GMT -5
I thought it might take on a "What are you working on" vibe- all in one place. Sounds interesting to me FWIW.
-lpf3
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 3, 2011 23:55:36 GMT -5
I thought it might take on a "What are you working on" vibe- all in one place. Sounds interesting to me FWIW. -lpf3 thats kinda like what i was suggesting. mainly its like user A, comes up with a really wicked concept axe but the're unsure of what to do and how to do it. So, instead of creating multiple threads under multiple sections, user A, could post all their questions and concerns in one place.
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 4, 2011 0:05:22 GMT -5
and then users B through Z(and so on), can post tips, give advice, parts suggestions, ect... I've also thought about finding a way to when the initial post is made that it would automatically add subpost catagories for each topic. kinda like the forums are now but different. the initial post will act as a section title but with the abilty to be replied to and each sub catagory would be like a indipendant thread
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 4, 2011 0:17:06 GMT -5
and just so i'm being understood this is what i was just saying further explained. whe you go to the homepage and scroll the sections list, click on the concept guitars section. when page opens you will see the users concept threads of the users that have posted. click on one and it'll bring up a thread list, starting with main topic, luthiery, finish, electronics, parts,finished project. but the individual threads are attached to the main thread and only visible when the initial poster, posts under (Cont)
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 4, 2011 0:21:07 GMT -5
that specific thread. so in other words the only sub threads that are visible to the other users are the ones posted under by the initial poster.
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 4, 2011 0:29:44 GMT -5
though i understand such an O.S. to run such an application, would take an Ubër amount of painstakingly long, and tiresome days (If not weeks) to write, its not impossible. just really, really, REALLY, time consuming! but the end result would be well worth such a long and daunting task.
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Post by cynical1 on Apr 4, 2011 0:31:59 GMT -5
I think your design concept eclipses anything that Proboards is currently capable of in the free mode we're in now.
My reservation with this new section is that if anyone is looking for a solution in the previous posts they could very well miss specific information buried in a one-size fits-all section.
Building a guitar is a partitioned process. Starting with wood selection, tooling, techniques and overall design; IE: solid, semi-hollow or hollow body...wandering over to scale length...
Next comes the nitty gritty of shaping, carving, gluing, finishing, etc...all with the primary goal of keeping all playing fingers securely attached.
In the electronics phase you have everything from pickups, switching, active or passive and so on. Here is where this board truly shines. There are some very knowledgeable folks to address specific questions in this area. This is also the area where we get the most traffic, which makes me hesitant to segment it further.
I haven't even gotten to hardware, nuts, tuners and so on.
I guess my point is that along the way, while you're building a guitar there are different phases you will move into. Each one presents its own challenges, and keeping a topic specific area to post your questions or concerns is convenient for most visitors.
We have the Coffee Shop and the Gallery where concepts and random flashes of inspiration may be tossed about with reckless abandon. These are the best places for this type of posting as if it wanders off topic...or though multiple topics, it doesn't muddy the waters and make searching for a solution overly complicated.
Well, you asked...
Happy Trails
Cynical One
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 4, 2011 1:03:50 GMT -5
as always cynical, your brutally honest and straight to the point. a trait i like in the ppl i associate with its much easier that way(no beating around that darn'd ol' bush) so i see your point there good fellow, and appretiate the constructive criticism, though my idea sounds good on paper it has its own problems, and i guess its better left ''as is'' so to speak, than to overcomplicate its simplicity.
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Post by newey on Apr 4, 2011 5:15:41 GMT -5
*Now known as "Happyboards" Cyn's right. there's not much in the way of programming available. I can manually create new boards and sub-boards, but that's about it. I could certainly make up a "Concepts" section; my concern is only that issues/questions wouldn't get seen there. But if there's enough of a consensus we'll do it.
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 4, 2011 9:32:34 GMT -5
well its a good idea if ya think about it but its not without its flaws as i've realized but i would still love to see it come to fruition someday ;D from a theoretical standpoint it could play a key role in promoting more ppl, to get hands on and build the axe of their dreams using this site!
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 4, 2011 9:42:41 GMT -5
and that being said, bears the potential to bring in more users. so i'd like to think its got potential!!!
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Post by cynical1 on Apr 4, 2011 9:48:09 GMT -5
Please don't take my comments as the final word on this. I merely expressed my thoughts on the subject...brutally honest or just direct...nothing more.
If the idea gets enough support I'm cool with it.
HTC1
(EDITed by sumgai to reflect c1's obvious intent.)
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Post by sumgai on Apr 4, 2011 15:04:12 GMT -5
Well, here's how I see it. sbg, your "battle plan" had some merit, but there were certain obstacles to overcome. newey pointed out the general "way of thinking" that most visitors here have... their mindset, so to speak. c1 also pointed out that our forum host (HappyBoards, which will soon be known worldwide as CrappyBoards - can't these guys ever look ahead? ) doesn't provide us with any tools for automation, something that would be de rigeur for your idea to work. No one, myself included is gonna wanna stand around waiting to see what sub-forum should next be created, yadda yadda yadda, you get the picture. Thus..... Take it over to The Coffee Shop (which by now you already have). Therein, you can split out your thinking on each topic to the appropriate forum, and then link back as appropriate. (Lesson on how to do this below.) This lets the main thread stay tight and focused, yet if one follows the links, they can see all of the tech details (or those they wish to see). Moreover, the Search Engine for this joint (Google needn't worry about competition on that front!) will be more likely to give answers that a searcher wants to see. Just my guess, true, but I personally think that the way we do things around here, this is gonna work the best, overall. Your "Strat Bass" concept thread is gonna be a good test, let's see if it works for you, and if needed, where we can tweak it for even better performance. HTH sumgai
Lesson: How to link, and link back, between ProBoards threads. If you'll observe the lower right side of each posting (each message), you'll see three links: Report to Mod, Link to Post and Back to Top. Click on Link to Post. That gives you essentially the same view, but now look at the browser's Address Bar. At the end of the standard address, there's an additional piece of data - that's the post number, assigned by the forum software (no one has any control over that number, it is unique in all of the ProBoards system.) You can copy that whole address, and paste it into your message - it now becomes your link. If you want to give it a more meaningful description, that's easy, here's how: Write your description (do try to keep it short); Highlight the description you just wrote; Go up to the row of Add Tags:, and click on the one that looks like a page in front of a globe - that's the URL tag; You should see the [a href=" and "] and [/a] tags surrounding your description; Carefully position the cursor between the "l" (that's lower case "L") and the "]" of the [url] tag; Enter the equal sign from your keyboard (the "=" sign); Immediately after that, do the paste operation, which should put your whole link in place; What you see now should be something on the order of: [url=guitarnuts2.proboards.com /index.cgi?board= something&thread= anothersomething& itgoesonlikethis,onandon]This links to what I'm talking about.[/url]; Presto, you now have a nice-looking link that will do the job. ;D Very obviously, if you wish to take the viewer to the top of a thread, not a specific post, you don't need to get that last part, the ".....&Post=369642" stuff. HTH
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Apr 4, 2011 15:14:57 GMT -5
thanks for that sumgai...
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Post by JFrankParnell on Apr 4, 2011 17:21:55 GMT -5
our forum host (HappyBoards, which will soon be known worldwide as CrappyBoards - can't these guys ever look ahead? ) hahahaha! I think you gotzd april foolzed!
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Post by sumgai on Apr 6, 2011 1:50:22 GMT -5
our forum host (HappyBoards, which will soon be known worldwide as CrappyBoards - can't these guys ever look ahead? ) hahahaha! I think you gotzd april foolzed! They released the news of the pending name change a couple of days prior to 4/1/11. That's more than the usual lead-in time for a prank....... Moreover, they actually paid for a domain name for this prank. Not too expensive, but now there's yet another useless name cluttering up DNS servers all over the world. No wonder we runned out of IP4 addresses......
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