megi
Meter Reader 1st Class
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
|
Post by megi on Jan 10, 2012 12:36:56 GMT -5
Did you go for those Entwistles in the end Ape? I'd be interested to know what you think if so! (Hi from the other forum BTW! ;D)
|
|
ape09090
Rookie Solder Flinger
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
|
Post by ape09090 on Jan 15, 2012 18:34:16 GMT -5
They're in the post
|
|
megi
Meter Reader 1st Class
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
|
Post by megi on Jan 19, 2012 6:03:59 GMT -5
Have you had a chance to look at the HV58's ape? Or even install them? Would be interested to know what your impressions of these pickups are, cheers!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2013 1:19:50 GMT -5
Hello,
i was lurking the net for entwistle ASN 57 when i fell on this forum!!! hmmm... looks like smth i know i thought ;D
I was searching for decent noisless for the bridge position in my strat build. Currently i have no-name neck and middle SC (the neck one sounds fantastic compared to the HS-3) and HS-3 in the bridge. I had tried converting HS-3 into traditional SC by deactivating the lower coil, liked the result, but due to hum i reverted it back. The HS-3 sounds ok, especially distorted, but for solos, in a middle-range (blackmore, malmsteen, etc...) low distortion setup, the no-name neck shines in comparison to the HS-3 in the bridge.
I am thinking of putting the HS-3 to the neck, where it feels at home, and getting something a little hotter but similar for the bridge. I have read good things about entwistle and this thread by known members here just confirms that.
I might give a go to ASN 57 for the bridge.
What do you think?
Runewalker and sono, if you remember what was the vertical depth of the pup in comparison to the HS-3?
Thanx!
|
|
|
|
Post by Runewalker on Feb 9, 2013 13:25:41 GMT -5
Hello, i was lurking the net for entwistle ASN 57 when i fell on this forum!!!....I was searching for decent noisless for the bridge position in my strat build..... I have read good things about entwistle and this thread by known members here just confirms that. I might give a go to ASN 57 for the bridge. What do you think? Runewalker and sono, if you remember what was the vertical depth of the pup in comparison to the HS-3? Thanx! Sono is off on a church thing and he has the ASNs so I need his input on the relative dimensions of the Ents compared to the dimarzios. My memory is that the hs 2 and 3 are a little taller. I actually wrote Entwhistle about ASN-57s because i wanted a version with 4 wires and a ground. It was a while back but I believe that said his design worked off a notion of not having the bottom coil as big as the top coil to balance out humcancelling with retained Single Coil sound and kept the 2 wire config on purpose. Good in theory and the pups are quite, but the humbuckering function still does not make it sound purely like a SC. Pretty good, just not as much sparkle and is a little more midrangy. Still, quite musical. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2013 14:27:00 GMT -5
Runewalker thanx a lot.
So where would you recommend the ASN to be placed ? bridge or neck? This particular strat i am talking about has been developed on the basis of early neo-classical, hard-rock, scalloped neck "philosophy".
If Dimarzio rates HS-3 at 93 mvolt, roughly speaking where would the ASN 57 stand?
|
|
|
|
Post by Runewalker on Feb 10, 2013 0:59:35 GMT -5
Runewalker thanx a lot. So where would you recommend the ASN to be placed ? bridge or neck? This particular strat i am talking about has been developed on the basis of early neo-classical, hard-rock, scalloped neck "philosophy". If Dimarzio rates HS-3 at 93 mvolt, roughly speaking where would the ASN 57 stand? The ASN's are humcancelling versions of the AS-57 single coils, which are more on the vintage end of things. Funny this is discussion coming up because I have some works in progress and pups laying around, including a HS-3 and HS-2 and was mulling over their application. Also coincidental is that I was going to pull the trigger on an EYGuitar order for some other Entwhistles - X3 --- similar to Dimarzios X2N, not a subtle pup. However the EY folks are off until the 15th. Is Feb 1-15 some sort of critical Chinese holiday? I believe I would place the HS-3 in the bridge and the ASNs in the mid/neck positions, unless you plan on splitting the HS-3. If you are going to split then I would put it in the Neck. Did you listen to Son'o's clip of the Entwistle XS 62N in the neck position? www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11285267&q=hi&newref=1He laid a sweet little ditty that does a pretty credible job of depicting that pup. the Entwistle XS 62N is a fatter wound Neo magnet version of the AS-57. So it is a more on the midrange/power side of the sound profile. The ASN-57 is somewhere in between the AS-57 and the Entwistle XS 62N in tonal profile, if that helps. You begin to realize how subjective all of these descriptions are --- hint of blackberry, nose of vanilla, oakey but bright with a Franco clay undertone.... arrrgggh we are Oenophiles ... and that whole "weeno" thing just does not sound right.... I am considering this array: HS-3 bridge. ASN-57 mid. HS-2 Neck with split. But I have not finished deciding. many choices compound decision making. RW |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 1:27:03 GMT -5
Thanx , i listened to the clip, although i cannot turn the volume up right now. Santana kind of sound, i think.
My consideration is with the output. If ASN 57 is even slightly more powerful than HS-3 (most SC's are) then maybe i would put HS-3 in the neck. I can get a good tone out of HS-3 in the bridge, but given the same distortion/amp settings, i *always* end up getting a better sound from the no-name (chinese??) neck SC. OTOH, HS-3 in the neck, IIRC sounded good most of the time. So i am searching for an all-arounder in the bridge.
PS
I think they have new year in China, i saw on the TV, so maybe because of that.
|
|
sonosonny
Apprentice Shielder
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
|
Post by sonosonny on Feb 11, 2013 13:44:39 GMT -5
GreekDude-
The measurement on the Ent ASN57 is as follows.
I measured from the top of the Pup Cover - top coil (closest to the strings) to the very bottom Pup Cover of the 2nd coil (bottom of the ASN57) where it will fit/sit into the cavity. They are in essence two STACKED coils.
Results:
2.7 Centimeters
1 1/16 Inches
The online Cm to Inch Calculator results in 2.7 Cm = 1.06299 Inches.
In both experiences with installing the ASN57's I have had to remove a small amount of body cavity under the pickup to fit it in nicely. Guess it depends on your string height relative to the top of the Pup/PG.
Not sure of the HS3 top to bottom measurement.
SOS
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 0:46:08 GMT -5
SOS, Thanx a lot.
Next time i open the cavity i will measure the depth, the overall height of the HS-3 and post them here.
|
|
