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Post by fredj on Dec 9, 2012 0:43:18 GMT -5
Hey guys & gals, I've got a guitar with a H H pickup configuration, a standard three way switch, and two 500k push-pull pots that I'd like to write up. Any chance you guys could help me out with it? I'm pretty new to soldering etc (and am not much of a DIYer), so the more clear the diagram / directions are the better Anyways, I was thinking that one push pull would be a coil split and the other would be a series / parallel switch or a phase switch, whichever might be more useful? I haven't had any experience with either. Thanks, Fred
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Post by JohnH on Dec 9, 2012 1:03:31 GMT -5
Hi Fred - welcome to our forum, and yes we will help.
If this is a new venture for you, I suggest going step by step. A diagram will be easy to arrange, once some facts are established, and you have gotten the knack of making a good solder joint.
Questions for you: What parts do you have? particularly the pickups, but also the pots and toggle switch?
Is this a new build from parts, or is it and existing guitar and if so what is it?
What tools do you have? youll need soldering iron 25w to 40w, wire cutters, a small bench clamp/vise is useful, and a multimeter (cheap is OK, but you'll need it when the guitar doesn't work first time)
Before wiring anything - some practice attaching wires to switch and pot lugs with solder, to get a good liquid looking flow of solder. Should probably find an online tutorial.
cheers
John
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Post by newey on Dec 9, 2012 1:54:00 GMT -5
fredj-
Hello and Welcome to G-Nutz2!
JohnH has asked the relevant questions, although you did tell us what parts you had. Knowing the pickup types, covered or uncovered, 4-wire vs 2-wire will be important info.
To split both pickups simultaneously to a single coil, or just one or the other pickup?
I assume you mean a switch to place the N and B HBs in series or in parallel, as opposed to putting the 2 coils of one HB in series/parallel.
Out-of-phase can tend to be a bit of a "one-trick pony". The series/parallel is probably more useful for more situations and songs.
But two HBs in series can be a bit much, particularly if they're of the overwound "hot" variety.
You may be able to get a general idea of the sounds of these mods by browsing through our "Sound Samples" section. Of course, pickups vary and guitars vary, but it will give you a general idea.
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Post by fredj on Dec 9, 2012 3:04:53 GMT -5
Hi Fred - welcome to our forum, and yes we will help. If this is a new venture for you, I suggest going step by step. A diagram will be easy to arrange, once some facts are established, and you have gotten the knack of making a good solder joint. Questions for you: What parts do you have? particularly the pickups, but also the pots and toggle switch? Is this a new build from parts, or is it and existing guitar and if so what is it? What tools do you have? youll need soldering iron 25w to 40w, wire cutters, a small bench clamp/vise is useful, and a multimeter (cheap is OK, but you'll need it when the guitar doesn't work first time) Before wiring anything - some practice attaching wires to switch and pot lugs with solder, to get a good liquid looking flow of solder. Should probably find an online tutorial. cheers John I don't own those things personally, but I do have them all at my disposal, even the small bench clamp. Thanks for the tutorial tips, I'll definitely do that. fredj- Hello and Welcome to G-Nutz2!JohnH has asked the relevant questions, although you did tell us what parts you had. Knowing the pickup types, covered or uncovered, 4-wire vs 2-wire will be important info. To split both pickups simultaneously to a single coil, or just one or the other pickup? I assume you mean a switch to place the N and B HBs in series or in parallel, as opposed to putting the 2 coils of one HB in series/parallel. Out-of-phase can tend to be a bit of a "one-trick pony". The series/parallel is probably more useful for more situations and songs. But two HBs in series can be a bit much, particularly if they're of the overwound "hot" variety. You may be able to get a general idea of the sounds of these mods by browsing through our "Sound Samples" section. Of course, pickups vary and guitars vary, but it will give you a general idea. Thanks for the warm welcomes! They are 4 wire Tom Anderson H1 & H2 humbuckers. They are uncovered PAF-esque magnets. Sorry this was all so unclear! I meant to split both pickups simultaneously. Yes, I mean putting the N & B HBs in series or in parallel, but will it work in conjunction with the coil split pot? I'll look through the sound samples and see if I can find any out of phase humbuckers. It'd be great to have all three, but I don't want to add any external modifications to the guitar and I don't see how I'd have all those options with just two knobs. Oh, the guitar is a Schecter Telecaster from the 80s! It's the black telecaster Pete Townshend used for awhile.
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Post by sumgai on Dec 9, 2012 3:52:17 GMT -5
fredj, Hi, and to the NutzHouse! Since this is a Tele build (and we're assuming it's not the REAL Pete Townsend axe!), then you do have a couple more options at your disposal: a) Consider upgrading the pickup selector switch to either a 4-way or a 5-way switch. The 4-way unit is found on the Baja Telecaster, and it'll give you both pickups in series or parallel, thus saving you one of the push-pulls (but don't worry, there are other jobs for the now-free switch ). If you opt for a 5-way switch, as found on the Strat, then you can have both options, and the 5 th one can be an OoP (out of phase) setup. FWIW, most players either stick with the 4-way, or go back to it - like newey said, OoP has a rather limited usefulness. b) With that upgrade in mind, let's return to your P-P's. You could split each pup's coils separately, but that leads to problems with hum (2 coils joined up with only 1 coil is unbalanced, to say the least). Or you could set one as a "blast" switch, letting the pickups go through with no controls - more or less this lets you toggle between a mid-volume setting and full-bore, without rocking the Volume knob up and down. You might also use it for changing the capacitor on your Tone control - again, a quick-switch method of changing your overall tone without rotating a pot. c) Really trick, but adds a whole new dimension to your sound - install a dual-concentric control that takes over for both the Volume and Tone functions. That loses you the P-P switch (manufacturers haven't figured out that we guitarists want this kind of thing..... ), but you've still got the remaining control with its P-P switch (presumably for splitting the coils or some such). But that remaining pot is now available for blending the two pickups, something that our own JohnH is discussing right now, in this thread. John has done this before, on other guitars, I think he's posted a sound sample or two, somewhere around here.... ask him to point it out, eh? HTH sumgai
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Post by JohnH on Dec 9, 2012 4:04:41 GMT -5
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Post by fredj on Dec 9, 2012 13:04:18 GMT -5
fredj, Hi, and to the NutzHouse! Since this is a Tele build (and we're assuming it's not the REAL Pete Townsend axe!), then you do have a couple more options at your disposal: a) Consider upgrading the pickup selector switch to either a 4-way or a 5-way switch. The 4-way unit is found on the Baja Telecaster, and it'll give you both pickups in series or parallel, thus saving you one of the push-pulls (but don't worry, there are other jobs for the now-free switch ). If you opt for a 5-way switch, as found on the Strat, then you can have both options, and the 5 th one can be an OoP (out of phase) setup. FWIW, most players either stick with the 4-way, or go back to it - like newey said, OoP has a rather limited usefulness. b) With that upgrade in mind, let's return to your P-P's. You could split each pup's coils separately, but that leads to problems with hum (2 coils joined up with only 1 coil is unbalanced, to say the least). Or you could set one as a "blast" switch, letting the pickups go through with no controls - more or less this lets you toggle between a mid-volume setting and full-bore, without rocking the Volume knob up and down. You might also use it for changing the capacitor on your Tone control - again, a quick-switch method of changing your overall tone without rotating a pot. c) Really trick, but adds a whole new dimension to your sound - install a dual-concentric control that takes over for both the Volume and Tone functions. That loses you the P-P switch (manufacturers haven't figured out that we guitarists want this kind of thing..... ), but you've still got the remaining control with its P-P switch (presumably for splitting the coils or some such). But that remaining pot is now available for blending the two pickups, something that our own JohnH is discussing right now, in this thread. John has done this before, on other guitars, I think he's posted a sound sample or two, somewhere around here.... ask him to point it out, eh? HTH sumgai Hey Sumgai, Thanks for the welcome. I really dig your suggestions, and yes it's not the original Townshend tele (he broke half of them anyways!), but it is from one of the same early production runs, so I'm reluctant to make any aesthetic modifications that aren't easily reversible. Hey John, I dig both of those sounds actually, they're pretty cool wiring schemes! As I said above though, I've only got two knobs and don't want to make any hard to reverse aesthetic changes. Maybe there would be some way to add switches to the back of the control cavity like you did your switch cavity?
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Post by JohnH on Dec 9, 2012 14:32:33 GMT -5
There's actually no reason why you cant have it all. If you have a coil cut on a push pull, either one for each pup, or combined, then use a 5-way super switch in place of your three way, to select N, B, N+B, NxB and NxB out of phase, in what ever order you prefer.
Or use a 4-way tele switch, B, B+N, N, BxN, one push pull to coil cut both, and a phase switch.
or, theres plent of space for a minitoggle on a Tele control plate, between the two pots.
Theres no extra knobs needed. Or, if you do dual gang pots, you can have full control of seperate tone and volume for each pickup.
In practical use, I tend to set a neck coil cut at reduced volume for clean rythym, and a full volume bridge Hb, and flick between them.
My little switches round the back were handy on an LP, but there was a switch cover there waiting to receive them, which you dont have on a Tele.
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Post by sumgai on Dec 9, 2012 15:30:48 GMT -5
fredj, From a purely aesthetic standpoint, it would take a hands-on examination to see that a guitar with chrome knobs actually has two pots combined into one position - there are no additional holes at all, so nothing needs to be "fixed", should a reversal be necessary. Looking at it from another angle, resale value is not impaired at all, providing you keep the original parts so you can put them back in before offering it up for sale. Ditto for the pickup selector switch, that's such a common mod these days that no one will bat an eye. Though again, keep the original part, just in case. BTW, you are now in The NutzHouse, so don't be afraid when you see a Tele that will never command a resale value, like this: HTH sumgai p.s. Sorta ninja'd by JohnH, as I was seeking that picture from outta the dusty archives.....
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Post by fredj on Dec 9, 2012 15:51:22 GMT -5
Hey Guys, Sorry should have been clearer as I guess there are different versions of the Scheter Pete Townshend telecaster. The guitar is set up in LP style with a hard top, no pickguard, a three way gibson toggle switch, and two tone knobs. The image below isn't my exact guitar, but it's the same make & model.
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Post by newey on Dec 9, 2012 16:20:54 GMT -5
OK, so you're limited to a std. 3-way toggle, plus the two pots.
When you said "Tele", I think we were all envisioning an exact clone. So, this is different . . .
There is the so-called "Freeway switch" available, which replaces a std toggle with a 6-position switch. That would allow you to broaden your sonic horizons, but they're expensive.
You do, it seems, have a back plate which could house some extra switches. To keep any possible future vintage value, you could save the original plate and make a replacement from some blank pickguard stock, and mount the switches to the replacement.
Short of that, you'll have to choose what options you want with only the 2 P/Ps. Since you want three things- series, phase and coil-cut- something has to give.
Only other option I come up with, to keep the stock appearance and make it easy to refit the original bits, would involve replacing one pot with a rotary switch to add your switching options, and then using a concentric pot in the other hole for both the volume and tone controls.
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Post by fredj on Dec 9, 2012 16:43:11 GMT -5
Yeah, there was a lack of clarity on my part. But just to make sure it' 100% clear it's a two knob gibson esque arrangement. The only thing remotely telecaster about it is the body shape. Is this the free-way switch you're talking about? www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Components:_Switches_and_knobs/Free-Way_Pickup_Switch.html I'd be more than happy to go with this as an alternative solution.
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Post by newey on Dec 9, 2012 19:57:27 GMT -5
Yeah, that's the one. I had to fix your link, though. If you click through the Stew-Mac link to the .pdf wiring instructions, there's a couple of different two-HB coil-cut options, depending on whether you want the inner or outer coils. So, with the switch to the "right" (in quotes since it depends on mounting orientation), you get the standard N/N + M/B selections, but to the "left", you get N(SC)/N(SC) + B(SC)/B(SC). Then, one P/P pot puts the pickups OOP, and the other does series/parallel. We'll have to work out how to integrate series/parallel with the freeway switch, but I'm sure that can be done. We had a long thread about this switch here. You may find some added info there. But, before you commit to using this switch, make sure it will fit! Check the dimensions and measure carefully. Note the JohnH stated in the other thread that for installs on an LP, the switch depth was insufficient to go through the LP top without some routing. So check the thickness of your top as well.
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Post by fredj on Dec 9, 2012 22:01:40 GMT -5
Good call Newey! The guitar is currently with a friend who is out of town, so I won't be able to get ahold of it to take measurements until sometime mid week or next weekend. As a result It would seem that the progression of this wiring scheme is at a halt!
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Post by JohnH on Dec 13, 2012 14:31:02 GMT -5
just in case no one has spotted it, but Wolf has posted a circuit that does exactly what your first post requests: Trev Anastasio wiringWith dual coil-cut and series/parallel, and in your cae, the switches would be on the pots as push pull. But you might have moved onto wanting phase as well John
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Post by fredj on Dec 26, 2012 3:53:11 GMT -5
Hey John,
That setup looks pretty good to me. I decided to stick with just two push/pull pots for the sake of simplicity.
Would there be anyway to make the coil split set the middle of the three way switch the the split coils from each pickup in series for that "tele tone" and then just make the other a phase switch? Because I don't know how useful the other parallel / series combinations will really be. If not and / or you think the other positions are potentially more useful than I'll just try & copy the set up you linked for me above.
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Post by newey on Dec 26, 2012 8:26:00 GMT -5
A Tele has 2 SCs in parallel, not in series. If all one P/P has to do is split the 2 HBs to SCs in parallel, then yes, that can be done. One P/P can't split both coils and put them in series, too- you would need extra poles on the switch.
But a series connection isn't going to sound like a Tele anyway.
As far as splitting coils, you can have the coils split irrespective of the 3-way switch, or it can split them only when the 3-way is centered, your choice. But there's no reason, really, not to do it the first way, so that you have the individual SC sounds as well. It's two more tonal options, and it's no more "switchy", since you still have to manipulate both a P/P and the 3-way switch to get the SC sounds.
The other P/P can indeed be a phase switch.
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Post by 4real on Dec 26, 2012 16:21:07 GMT -5
Welcome to GN2...you are in good hands...till I turned up I know this gutiar well, my 'second banana' when I played rock played one, got it when the guitar first came out. It is coverted by quite a few people. Definitely measure things acurately that this will fit in this thing, even push pulls are quite 'long'... Think aobut how you want to use this guitar. I'm fond of the 'middle position' and live the ability to switch quickly between a rhythm or lead bossted sound...plus variety. So, think about how you are going to use the thing and in what context...with splits (other than in rwrp pairs) you lose noise cancelling and this can often be an 'issue'. What can often work really well are combinations of full HB and split or local parallel combinations. This also gives you the ability to use the selector for quick access to 3 distinct sounds and volume levels. When I played in a band and exclusively with an LP, this is how I used it, the neck pup split, favouring the middle position, allowing to drop and thin the sound to the split neck, or to quickly switch to a full on HB lead sound. Consider parallel as this is noise cancelling and often sounds very similar to a 'split'...you can even get a 'split' from a tone control mod without a push pull at all! But, I'd consider having the ability to split/parallel the pups individually. A phase switch is an aquired taste...it can provide an odd Lo-Fi kind of sound and it only works with the two pickup seetting...one pickup needs to be out of phase with another. I have one in my tele in a P-P but it is rarely used and as I say, more of a 'trick sound' in that guitar. A milder HOoP is a simple mod to calm the phase switch down and works fine in my strat (on the neck pup) though again, rarely used. Anyway...a few thoughts...most of these kinds of options should be possible without mod and if it fits in this particular guitar, from memory they are relatively 'thin' and the control cavity fairly small...so do check that out and see what fits. If you know someone that is a little more experienced with soldering, these things are not 'hard' but any skill takes a bit of practice...so someone might do the connecting from a clear diagram. Also, I would advise doing all the work on a cardboard template and tested as working before installing the wiring in the cavity...you don't want to be sticking the iron into a tight rear cavity and it will work out better and faster too... Be sure to protect the guitar too from stray solder and the like and to put a towel or soemthing on a proper table (not the floor or in bed!) to protect and stop the guitar moving about...
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Post by JohnH on Dec 26, 2012 18:15:20 GMT -5
But, I'd consider having the ability to split/parallel the pups individually. ... Yes indeed - I think that is what I would do for a practical guitar. Although you can obviously split both with one switch, I find I'm much more likely to split the neck pickup, and use the bridge as full Humbucker - that provides my Lead and Rhythm tones, both accessible from the 3-way. However, let me throw in another possibility, if you keep the coil cuts on one switch, leaving the other available. You can do a 'crossover switch' It would take your two humbuckers and swap two of the coils over, so you get one bridge and one neck coil - forming a new hum canceling setting. You could have it do inner coils and outer coils. In coil cut mode, it would not affect the settings, bridge single, Bridge and neck singles, neck single. In non-coil cut mode, this cross over switch would change from the usual bridge Hb, Both Hb's, Neck Hb, to: inner coils, Both/all, Outer coils. Just thought I'd throw that one in.... John
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Post by fredj on Dec 28, 2012 3:33:38 GMT -5
A Tele has 2 SCs in parallel, not in series. If all one P/P has to do is split the 2 HBs to SCs in parallel, then yes, that can be done. One P/P can't split both coils and put them in series, too- you would need extra poles on the switch. But a series connection isn't going to sound like a Tele anyway. As far as splitting coils, you can have the coils split irrespective of the 3-way switch, or it can split them only when the 3-way is centered, your choice. But there's no reason, really, not to do it the first way, so that you have the individual SC sounds as well. It's two more tonal options, and it's no more "switchy", since you still have to manipulate both a P/P and the 3-way switch to get the SC sounds. The other P/P can indeed be a phase switch. I meant that there would be a single coil split push/pull and when activated it would split both Humbuckers and make the middle position the a split coil from the bottom and top humbucker activated in parallel with each other for the tele sound. I'm reconsidering the phase switch Idea, I originally wanted it to get some Brian May - esque tones and or some interesting sounds for funk rhythm when I'm gigging with a minimalist setup, but it seems like the general consensus is that they aren't that useful. Welcome to GN2...you are in good hands...till I turned up I know this gutiar well, my 'second banana' when I played rock played one, got it when the guitar first came out. It is coverted by quite a few people. Definitely measure things acurately that this will fit in this thing, even push pulls are quite 'long'... Think aobut how you want to use this guitar. I'm fond of the 'middle position' and live the ability to switch quickly between a rhythm or lead bossted sound...plus variety. So, think about how you are going to use the thing and in what context...with splits (other than in rwrp pairs) you lose noise cancelling and this can often be an 'issue'. What can often work really well are combinations of full HB and split or local parallel combinations. This also gives you the ability to use the selector for quick access to 3 distinct sounds and volume levels. When I played in a band and exclusively with an LP, this is how I used it, the neck pup split, favouring the middle position, allowing to drop and thin the sound to the split neck, or to quickly switch to a full on HB lead sound. Consider parallel as this is noise cancelling and often sounds very similar to a 'split'...you can even get a 'split' from a tone control mod without a push pull at all! But, I'd consider having the ability to split/parallel the pups individually. A phase switch is an aquired taste...it can provide an odd Lo-Fi kind of sound and it only works with the two pickup seetting...one pickup needs to be out of phase with another. I have one in my tele in a P-P but it is rarely used and as I say, more of a 'trick sound' in that guitar. A milder HOoP is a simple mod to calm the phase switch down and works fine in my strat (on the neck pup) though again, rarely used. Anyway...a few thoughts...most of these kinds of options should be possible without mod and if it fits in this particular guitar, from memory they are relatively 'thin' and the control cavity fairly small...so do check that out and see what fits. If you know someone that is a little more experienced with soldering, these things are not 'hard' but any skill takes a bit of practice...so someone might do the connecting from a clear diagram. Also, I would advise doing all the work on a cardboard template and tested as working before installing the wiring in the cavity...you don't want to be sticking the iron into a tight rear cavity and it will work out better and faster too... Be sure to protect the guitar too from stray solder and the like and to put a towel or soemthing on a proper table (not the floor or in bed!) to protect and stop the guitar moving about... Thanks for the welcome! These really are fabulous guitars and I know that they are quite sought after. Why'd you end up selling yours? I actually do like your idea of being able to split just the neck pickup. I hadn't thought about using a single split in that way, but I could see how it would be very useful for jumping between rhythm and lead. What I'm a little unclear on is are you suggesting that of my two push/pull pots each becomes a split / parallel switch for their respective humbuckers? How would the parallel settings work in tandem with the coil splits, particularly if just one is activated? My original idea for having them both split was so that I could jump easily to that "tele" parallel single coil sound, but I believe your suggestion might be more useful overall. As far as the size goes, I'm positive two push/pulls will fit because that's what was in the cavity prior to some slight modifications, but that being said you're right about it being cramped. Whatever road I end up taking it's going to end up being tight. That's another reason why I decided just to stick with the two knob wiring and no additional knobs or switches. But, I'd consider having the ability to split/parallel the pups individually. ... Yes indeed - I think that is what I would do for a practical guitar. Although you can obviously split both with one switch, I find I'm much more likely to split the neck pickup, and use the bridge as full Humbucker - that provides my Lead and Rhythm tones, both accessible from the 3-way. John...I mentioned it above, but I hadn't thought about using the coil spits in that way and after considering it I think that would lend itself to the most useful setting. Although, I am interested in the new wiring idea you just proposed. How useable do you think the other tones would be & is there any sound samples of a similar wiring?
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Post by 4real on Dec 28, 2012 4:29:55 GMT -5
No, it was owned by the 'rhythm guitar player' in a band I played in, in the 80's...we played a lot of the 'who' and he was a fan...I guess i was the townsend impersonator of sorts (never smashed them though!)
It's a good no nonsense kind of modern take on the tele. My fav Jeff beck also has a famous HH tele that was used on 'because we ended as lovers' that is quite famous and a great sounding guitar...was used on the 'policeman's ball' with clapton back in the day.
I think with this kind of guitar, simple is best and it sounds like you are refining the kinds of things you want in the right kind of way...think about what has been suggested and how you'd use the guitar and come up with the 'want list' and I am sure someone will do a decent scheme to achieve it and a helping hand along the way.
I never got to play the guitar much myself, but it is a fine axe
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Post by 4real on Dec 28, 2012 6:32:30 GMT -5
I'm not sure if you've seen or heard my tele... guitarnuts2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=music&action=display&thread=5318I made a clean, no amp recording of the guitar... www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=869409In particular you might find the 'phase switch' setting of interest at 3:00 mark. This guitar uses an HB at the bridge (a very bright vintage fender wide range pup) and a single coil noiseless tele SCn stack at the neck. The controls are via a gibson like toggle as in yours and two controls, volume and tone plus this push pull on the volume to activate the phase switch. Phase only works when two pickups are slected, so with it pulled, this 'effect' only occurs when the selector is also centred which can be a good thing to switch quickly...if you want this kind of 'sound'. An alternative milder effect is a HOoP switch...a similar but half the 'scoop' out of the tone. This was my main guitar for a couple of years. The controls are simple and I particularly like the N+B thing with a diversity of pups like this (though generally on any guitar). On yours you might get a similar effect with a split on the neck pup, or indeed 'parallel' on the neck which would preserve noise cancelling. Anyway, hope that helps, every guitar and pickup combination is going to react a little differently, but perhaps will give you an idea. The main thing is to think what is useful for your use of the guitar...
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Post by fredj on Feb 25, 2013 23:51:33 GMT -5
Hey guys,
I'm back! So I decided I'd like to go with something relatively simple for the wiring scheme.
How easy would it be to have a coil split as a push-pull on each knob and have the middle position be wired like a tele when both coils are split?
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Post by newey on Feb 26, 2013 6:29:06 GMT -5
Welcome back, fredj!
Not sure what you mean by "wired like a Tele". As I noted above, a Tele has 2 single coils in parallel. If both HBs are split, it would be "wired like a Tele", although split HBs aren't going to exactly mimic SCs.
But to answer your question, using two P/Ps to split the two HBs is easily done. Do you need a drawing of a module to do this?
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Post by allmektig on Feb 26, 2013 16:44:57 GMT -5
one can be an OoP (out of phase) setup. FWIW, most players either stick with the 4-way, or go back to it - like newey said, OoP has a rather limited usefulness. Actually, the neck and bridge in series, out of phase, is one of the sounds I use most on my squier strat. First running to a clean boost pedal and then into a (modelled) very angry tube amp set to max gain. I get a really piercing sound that I quite like when I want a tone that's almost painfull to listen to.
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Post by fredj on Mar 27, 2013 22:16:11 GMT -5
Welcome back, fredj! Not sure what you mean by "wired like a Tele". As I noted above, a Tele has 2 single coils in parallel. If both HBs are split, it would be "wired like a Tele", although split HBs aren't going to exactly mimic SCs. But to answer your question, using two P/Ps to split the two HBs is easily done. Do you need a drawing of a module to do this? Hey Newey, Yes, I did mean two single coils in parallel. A module for this wuold be great if it's not too much trouble. So, to summarize I'm looking for a wiring scheme for: 2 four conductor Tom Anderson pickups wired to two push/pull pots. One master volume, one master tone, and a three way pickup selector. I'd like the Master volume to split the neck and the master tone to split the bridge. Lastly, I'd like the two split coils to be in parallel when both push/pulls are engaged and the pickup selector is in the middle position.
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Post by newey on Mar 28, 2013 5:46:50 GMT -5
fredj-
I'll get you something here, probably later today. If I just give you a module for the coil split, you should be able to use any old HH diagram for the rest of it.
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Post by cola1987 on Apr 19, 2015 0:49:58 GMT -5
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Post by wolf on Apr 19, 2015 5:18:35 GMT -5
fredj I tried reading this topic carefully, but I don't think you mentioned whether those humbuckers have 4 conductor wiring or not. That would be very important if you want series/parallel or coil cut switching.
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Post by newey on Apr 19, 2015 7:53:01 GMT -5
It's been over two years since I neglected FredJ's request. Mea culpa. But FredJ never popped back in to chide me, so no diagram was ever produced . . . BTW, wolf, his HBs were stated to be 4-wire ones. cola1987- The Seymour Duncan diagram to which you linked uses 2 push/pull pots, one to split the coils of each pickup. then, a three-way pickup selector switches between neck HB/NHB + BHB/ Bridge HB, just like on most HH-equipped guitars. This allows for either pickup to be operated as a single coil in all combinations. Around here, we like to use what sumgai calls a "truth table" to easily identify possible switching combos for a given guitar, it's easier to follow than a verbal description of the different combinations. Here's one for this scheme:
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