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Post by edvard on Jul 25, 2014 2:34:36 GMT -5
Have you had a chance to play around with this? I'm considering putting up some sound samples on Soundcloud or some such just to demonstrate things. Been busy lately...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 14:51:05 GMT -5
Have you had a chance to play around with this? I'm considering putting up some sound samples on Soundcloud or some such just to demonstrate things. Been busy lately... no, unfortunately not.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 8:30:41 GMT -5
Hello again,
just installed ubuntu-studio 16.04 in the weekend, to help my son with his vid editing, youtube uploads, etc. It uses the low latency kernel. The linux amps suck, and I noticed I had worse noise than back with the generic 14.04 ubuntu in our old disks. Guitarix is noisy as hell with no useful tones, and rakarack while still better was also noisy. However, the boss me-25 driver now rocks! and the sound I got with recording with ardour4 was just fantastic to the point of not needing an additional external USB Audio interface. Also we got superb mic sound with an old USB webcam for my son's videos.
Overall a huge leap forward of not buying a Mac Pro!!!
Cost : 0 EUR!
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Granted I did not try Edvard's recommendation on Guitarix, I might do it.
Also I find the introduction of pulse audio into Jack a little bit confusion, lots of virtual devices all over. Native (ALSA) audio support right out of the box shines tho.
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Post by edvard on May 17, 2016 20:30:31 GMT -5
Glad you got it working, too bad about the noise, but I might be able to help with that...
At the very top of the Guitarix interface, I have the Noise Gate on and set to full (adjust to your own taste), Noise Shaper, Mono Level Out and Clip are all turned off. Now reading the settings I suggested previously, I think I may have had the controls set for my Bullet with single coils. Right now for my Squier with humbuckers, on the main 'GX-2' interface I have Pregain at about 30%, Drive at 100%, Clean/Dist at 100% and Master Gain at 25%; Bass Boost, Presence and Reverb are all turned off, and the tube selection is "6DJ8". That should set you up with a nice crunchy tone right off, then add amp and cabinet models to taste. The Pregain knob is responsible for a lot of the noise when everything else is turned up. Turn down the Pregain and adjust the Drive and Clean/Dist to compensate when trying for distorted tones, balance it with the Drive control when running clean (if ever). As far as Pulse Audio goes, I always uninstall it. It has it's uses, but I never got along with it, and when it interferes with Jack, I'm even less happy with it.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 23:09:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 3:41:51 GMT -5
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Post by edvard on May 20, 2016 20:09:11 GMT -5
One thing I forgot... check alsamixer and make sure your 'Capture' settings aren't too high. That will give bad noise levels too. I have mine set at 0.00dB, maybe 2.00dB when I play my single-coil. Balance that with your input gain settings for best sound and least noise. <Edit> The Trooper mix sounds real good man, I like it.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 23:16:30 GMT -5
thnx bro. Things got improved, I saw some tutorials and fixed some things. Now most of the modern metal "patches" are based on the 5150 and a COSM modern metal amp. Not so much the Rectifier, which sounds so mid boosting in a razor scratching way. I added some plugins in ardour : cab emulation, additional compression and EQ things started to rock! For now I made this : soundcloud.com/greekdude888/nunu11But some time I will make smth better for Djent/modern metal. They way I have done all recordings is by using the me-25 as the Jack's input sound card, i.e. using the me-25 as the Audio USB interface.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 11:37:05 GMT -5
soundcloud.com/greekdude888/nunu14left channel me-25 , pre amp : 5150, gain 15%, OD gain 15%, compressor -> Ardour4 + Cab/EQ/Compressor right channel me-25 , pre amp : metal, gain 15%, Tube Screamer gain 15%, compressor -> Ardour4 + Cab/EQ/Compressor
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Post by cheap on Jun 8, 2016 8:27:53 GMT -5
Hi guys.
I've been recording in linux for some time, but I've always stopped short of live effects, and for that reason effects at all. I like to have low latency and hear the effects I'm using as I play. Of course, I'm willing to put minor effects like room verb on, or cab sims if I'm monitoring through a cab while playing in post, but I haven't bothered yet. Obviously nothing studio quality results from that. But my question is, what Linux distro do you use edvard? I've tried quite a few. I don't mind how bulky it is as long as it's fast. I'm going to be installing a new hardrive in my laptop soon, I figure it's a good time to start fresh, and finally get some live effects, or at least low-latency monitoring. My laptop's got a fairly beefy, though 4 year old quad core processor. In a past life it served as a gaming rig.
I don't mind tooling around for x amount of hours to get it to work, but knowing what flavor of linux you've had success with would be a huge confidence booster.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 22:42:30 GMT -5
Ubuntu Studio 16.04 with the low latency kernel. About laptop, dunno, sound card must offload much work to the CPUs, there is a reason ppl don't use laptops for home recording.
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Post by cynical1 on Jun 11, 2016 19:35:46 GMT -5
You might want to take a look at 64-Studio. It has most of the common problems with Linux audio already worked out. They even wrote part of the Ubuntu Studio distro. And I'm with Greek on recording with a laptop. It's sort of like bringing a stick to a gunfight. HTC1
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Post by cheap on Jun 11, 2016 19:52:59 GMT -5
Well, my laptop does have a bit faster of a processor than most. I'd have to look it up but it's a bit faster than what comes in most desktops. I'll consider those options.
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Post by cynical1 on Jun 11, 2016 20:23:53 GMT -5
The processor is only part of the equation. Unless you order the enhanced onboard audio with the laptop you're going to be beating the processor up as it can't unload any of the work off to a soundcard. I have yet to see an off the shelf laptop perform as well as its desktop counterpart. Granted, I've only been working on these things for 25 years, so I may have missed something.
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Post by cheap on Jun 11, 2016 20:35:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll be sure to look up my sound card specs to see if this is viable at all. Well, I'll probably give it a shot either way, but I'll bang my head against the wall a lot less if I realize this could fail.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 8:58:56 GMT -5
It is not only the sound card. If you choose to use an USB Audio interface, then it will be the USB card where your next bottleneck might be. I gave up with my stinky Sony Vaio a long time ago. People at conferences complain about its noise as well.
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Post by edvard on Jul 25, 2016 20:54:34 GMT -5
Hi guys. I've been recording in linux for some time, but I've always stopped short of live effects, and for that reason effects at all. I like to have low latency and hear the effects I'm using as I play. Of course, I'm willing to put minor effects like room verb on, or cab sims if I'm monitoring through a cab while playing in post, but I haven't bothered yet. Obviously nothing studio quality results from that. But my question is, what Linux distro do you use edvard? I've tried quite a few. I don't mind how bulky it is as long as it's fast. I'm going to be installing a new hardrive in my laptop soon, I figure it's a good time to start fresh, and finally get some live effects, or at least low-latency monitoring. My laptop's got a fairly beefy, though 4 year old quad core processor. In a past life it served as a gaming rig. I don't mind tooling around for x amount of hours to get it to work, but knowing what flavor of linux you've had success with would be a huge confidence booster. Sorry I haven't been around much, I've been tending to normal life and haunting a few other forums of various stripes. Personally, I haven't gotten along with Ubuntu since 2009 or so, and gone straight Debian; the "Testing" flavor to be exact. I run the Xfce desktop environment (I can't stand Gnome, and KDE has always been too heavy for my taste), though I've tried the new LXQt and it's fairly snappy, if a bit stripped-down. I also run the realtime kernel (do an apt-cache search for "linux-image-rt" and install the one for your hardware; 32- or 64-bit) when I do experiments with sound, which always messes with some driver or two, so caveat emptor. I always uninstall Pulse audio, because it's more annoying than helpful, and always gets in the way of Jackd. My current rig is an AMD Phenom II X2 so your quad-core should beat out my specs, laptop or no. 64-Studio hasn't been updated for a while now, development seems to have been abandoned since 2011 or so, and the project re-worked as OpenDAW, whose GitHub site hasn't seen a code update for 3 years now. Stick with Debian, Ubuntu Studio or any distro that lets you install a RealTime-preempt kernel. I have hacked a "guitar hero" microphone into a cheap guitar interface by adding an FET at the input for better impedance matching; see here: www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=103925.0A 'proper' sound card or usb interface will do MUCH better than that though, and I've noticed in the last 5 years or so that 24-bit/96 kHz on-board sound is now the norm, so do a little digging, you may have a decent sound card already, just remember you'll need a buffer in between your guitar and the input or else you'll get muddy real quick.
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Post by cheap on Aug 2, 2016 13:27:10 GMT -5
Thanks a ton for all the info Edvard. I can't wait to give Debian a shot.
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Post by cynical1 on Aug 2, 2016 17:15:05 GMT -5
64-Studio hasn't been updated for a while now, development seems to have been abandoned since 2011 or so, and the project re-worked as OpenDAW, whose GitHub site hasn't seen a code update for 3 years now. Well, that's a damn shame. Obviously, I hadn't looked at Linux for a few years, but 64Studio at least showed some progress, at that time, in making Linux a viable OS for studio grade work. I guess what's sadder is that there wasn't enough demand from users in 5 years to push someone to create a viable alternative to Windows for music recording and production. HTC1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 3:45:05 GMT -5
Ubuntu studio is supposed to be to "goto" linux when multimedia is the aim. However this is just a bare linux with the low latency kernel package pre-installed and pre-selected in Grub, + all the packages related to audio and video. However there a small inconsistency here, where KDE vs Gnome comes into play, e.g. Kdenlive is the best (yet buggy) video editing software for Linux, but this is written using the Qt/KDE libs, and belongs to the KDE ecosystem, while Ubuntu by nature has to use Gnome-ish tools. Nothing terrible, besides yet another sign of the classic open source tendency to fork, a fragmentation which has only brought slow down in the open source world. If only one Operating System, one kernel, one userland, one tool for each work existed in Open Source, it would beat everything, but unfortunately this would go against the original OS philosophy, so this is impossible to happen, by concept.
64studio died some time in 2008+. It was supposed to be renamed to OpenDAW, but they never released anything.
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Post by cynical1 on Aug 7, 2016 13:48:46 GMT -5
64studio died some time in 2008+. It was supposed to be renamed to OpenDAW, but they never released anything. To paraphrase the old saying. "How do you get three Linux developers to agree on one thing?" Make sure two are dead. HTC1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 6:04:36 GMT -5
lol so true!
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Post by edvard on Aug 8, 2017 0:23:34 GMT -5
OK, here's what you do, no Ubuntu Studio or Studio 64 required: Start with a computer and guitar interface; direct to Line In or USB or whathaveyou Install Debian. Testing or Stable doesn't matter. I recommend the Xfce flavor (obviously), but hell, it's free; do what you want. Install the Liquorix kernel: liquorix.netReboot and switch to the Liquorix kernel. Uninstall Pulse Audio. Install QjackCtl Install either Guitarix or Rakarrack for effects (Rakarrack may need to be tweaked for distortion to work) Open a terminal and type "alsamixer" (without quotes, of course). Hit your [tab] key to get to the Inputs section. Find the input where your guitar is plugged in and make sure it is enabled. Turn up the corresponding fader somewhere between 5 and 25 should do. Now you should be ready to rock: Fire up QjackCtrl; read stuff on the internet how to get low latency. --Hint: libremusicproduction.com/articles/demystifying-jack-–-beginners-guide-getting-started-jackFire up your preferred effects thingummy; I prefer Guitarix, greekdude prefers Rakarrack. Either of us can get you started with whatever you choose. Plug guitar doohickey into your computer, then plug your guitar into the doohickey. Hook up Line Out to your mixer, stereo, amp, whatever or plug in good headphones ROCK OUT!!
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Post by edvard on Aug 8, 2017 0:34:49 GMT -5
Sorry I've been away for a bit folks, good to look around and see we're all (mostly) still here. If anyone wants to follow along with my instructions, I can fill in any missing information as needed. Good to be back...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 8:22:20 GMT -5
keep on rocking man
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