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Post by sumgai on Feb 15, 2013 3:36:05 GMT -5
I don't recall exactly how I stumbled onto this guy, probably it was a 'related' link from a YouTube video or sumpin'..... Anyways, I'm fascinated by something called Rumba Flamenco. Take a look at this page.... scroll down to the Sample Lesson video and do whatever it takes to make it play: johngilliat.com/guitarschool/I can't get enough of that! ;D Looking at other material there, I think this fella has what it takes to impart an understanding of his craft to others. IOW, I think he's a pretty good teacher. Or am I all gefooey? Whaddaya think? sumgai
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2013 5:44:08 GMT -5
I like this as well. OTOH all this minor stuff is not new to "classic-metal"heads at all. Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Uriah Heep, Manowar, all of them (ab)used to play those scales. Basically i think, gypsy music (being eastern), is essentially sad music, (contrary to west european music which is mostly joyful). That is why IMHO metal, a supposedly dark and sad genre, uses those scales as well.
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Post by newey on Feb 15, 2013 8:51:11 GMT -5
Interesting point. My guitar teacher recently pointed out to me that when jamming in a Blues, or Blues-Rock, genre, one generally uses minor pentatonic scales, while most of the "Southern Rock" bands like Lynyrd Skynyrd would often jam using major pentatonic scales (although, at times, they played the Blues as well).
Using a major pentatonic makes everything sound sunnier, somehow.
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Post by ijustwannastrat on Feb 27, 2013 12:03:49 GMT -5
Doesn't the major pentatonic thing in southern rock come from country music?
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Post by newey on Feb 27, 2013 14:15:05 GMT -5
"Yep, I reckon so . . " ;D
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Post by ashcatlt on Feb 28, 2013 1:27:13 GMT -5
I guess I'm a bit confused there. I usually play the scale which fits the key. If we're in a major key, then I play the major pentatonic. Are we saying that country and southern rock are more likely than blues to be based on a major key? I guess that might be true in broad generality, but there are many exceptions on both sides. Robert Smith once told Guitar Player magazine that an important part of the Cure's sound comes from playing major scale melodies over minor keys, or vice versa, or something. He's kind of notorious for lying to and f king with journalists, though...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 7:01:51 GMT -5
I guess I'm a bit confused there. I usually play the scale which fits the key. If we're in a major key, then I play the major pentatonic. Are we saying that country and southern rock are more likely than blues to be based on a major key? I guess that might be true in broad generality, but there are many exceptions on both sides. Robert Smith once told Guitar Player magazine that an important part of the Cure's sound comes from playing major scale melodies over minor keys, or vice versa, or something. He's kind of notorious for lying to and f g with journalists, though... major scales in vocals are kind of common in punk/new wave. Mike Muir of Suicidal Tendencies loved to sing in major scale (e.g. in "control by hatred") while the riffs went fully minor/and lydian/dorian(??) (in short oriental) punk-thrash kind of thing. A very nice combo.
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Post by ijustwannastrat on Feb 28, 2013 22:18:39 GMT -5
A lot of southern rock and country plays around with the I, IV, V progression like it's a 12 bar blues. What makes it different is that the country folk will play the major pentatonic over their I, rather than a minor pentatonic like blues guys.
That's an EXTREMELY vague and stereotypical explanation, but that's how I understand it.
Furthermore, the country guys who sound like they're pulling hell straight out of the guitar at pivotal moments are slipping into that blues territory and beyond.
But I don't know much about any of that, so take it all at face value...
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