Post by genmce on Sept 13, 2013 6:26:12 GMT -5
Please relocate if necessary.
My recent exploits with JohnH's SSM2 wiring diagram - lead me to some important questions bouncing about in my mind.
The situation -
I have 4 electric guitars to play with 3 strat style (one of which is nice)and the electric 12 string.
I have before me a pile of pickups - Some hb, some noise cancelling, some sc - alnico some ... the other kind.
So on my sc some with black and white wires - some with black and yellow - one black and red. Some of these are from cheepo strat copies some from mexi strats and some from american strats.
Questions -
1. How to wire them all up? From a basic standpoint I know how to solder and am getting faster with each connection.
I troll about this great board finding all sorts of very interesting things that wake me up early to try before my children wake up.
I have tried several - including the 3 toggle switch strat - I think it has another name... tho it escapes me. I have done 4real's mod of MR with hb spin select as well as the most recent SSM2.
The initial question above (How to wire them up)- I thought had a simple and straight forward answer... Pick a diagram or schematic {I can read them - however translating them into something that is wired is problematic for me (this is not the issue I am thinking about)} and solder it up - rock on dude! However - My tastes and ears are developing - I find myself looking at more complex wiring - in search of the illusive sound I think that I want... This question is not even about that. There are different ways to wire tone controls or volume controls - yada yada...
So - I want, whatever I concoction I choose to settle on (don't laugh because you know I will never settle... I clear my throat trying to start again) - I want hum cancelling - I have found that hum really bothers me - particularly if there is a way to get ride of it - with careful planning and knowledge.
I live in the US so 60hz is pretty easy to come by - if I really want it. But if I don't want it, and I don't, I need a method for how to approach my parts in a logical manor and how to assemble them in a best practice sort of way. I can slap pickups in a guitar thinking of how cool they will sound just based on resistances and how nice they look. They may sound great individually - and, if I get lucky, they may sound great together... However, I have found that I really need to take into consideration - polarity - wind and how they will interact together.
How do I know which pickup combinations will hum cancel?
I need a method - testing method with lo tech tools - i have a meter but no oscope.
Polarity - wiring direction.
SC interaction with humbucker - which hb coils to match with which single coils - if I split them the hb.
So use a compass to test polarity? I have done that - but does it tell me what I need to know for hum cancelling?
Should pairs of pickups that I will use together be the same polarity or different?
Visual inspection to determine winding direction? How does winding come back into the picture for hum-cancelling with relation the polarity.
My head starts to spin because I don't really know the answers to these questions.
This stops me in my tracks to try to assemble some rules of thumb as I consider different assemblies.
I stare longingly at the pile - trying to come to terms with the best way to use the parts.
My recent exploits with JohnH's SSM2 wiring diagram - lead me to some important questions bouncing about in my mind.
The situation -
I have 4 electric guitars to play with 3 strat style (one of which is nice)and the electric 12 string.
I have before me a pile of pickups - Some hb, some noise cancelling, some sc - alnico some ... the other kind.
So on my sc some with black and white wires - some with black and yellow - one black and red. Some of these are from cheepo strat copies some from mexi strats and some from american strats.
Questions -
1. How to wire them all up? From a basic standpoint I know how to solder and am getting faster with each connection.
I troll about this great board finding all sorts of very interesting things that wake me up early to try before my children wake up.
I have tried several - including the 3 toggle switch strat - I think it has another name... tho it escapes me. I have done 4real's mod of MR with hb spin select as well as the most recent SSM2.
The initial question above (How to wire them up)- I thought had a simple and straight forward answer... Pick a diagram or schematic {I can read them - however translating them into something that is wired is problematic for me (this is not the issue I am thinking about)} and solder it up - rock on dude! However - My tastes and ears are developing - I find myself looking at more complex wiring - in search of the illusive sound I think that I want... This question is not even about that. There are different ways to wire tone controls or volume controls - yada yada...
So - I want, whatever I concoction I choose to settle on (don't laugh because you know I will never settle... I clear my throat trying to start again) - I want hum cancelling - I have found that hum really bothers me - particularly if there is a way to get ride of it - with careful planning and knowledge.
I live in the US so 60hz is pretty easy to come by - if I really want it. But if I don't want it, and I don't, I need a method for how to approach my parts in a logical manor and how to assemble them in a best practice sort of way. I can slap pickups in a guitar thinking of how cool they will sound just based on resistances and how nice they look. They may sound great individually - and, if I get lucky, they may sound great together... However, I have found that I really need to take into consideration - polarity - wind and how they will interact together.
How do I know which pickup combinations will hum cancel?
I need a method - testing method with lo tech tools - i have a meter but no oscope.
Polarity - wiring direction.
SC interaction with humbucker - which hb coils to match with which single coils - if I split them the hb.
So use a compass to test polarity? I have done that - but does it tell me what I need to know for hum cancelling?
Should pairs of pickups that I will use together be the same polarity or different?
Visual inspection to determine winding direction? How does winding come back into the picture for hum-cancelling with relation the polarity.
My head starts to spin because I don't really know the answers to these questions.
This stops me in my tracks to try to assemble some rules of thumb as I consider different assemblies.
I stare longingly at the pile - trying to come to terms with the best way to use the parts.