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Post by roadtonever on Feb 12, 2014 15:48:52 GMT -5
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Post by newey on Feb 12, 2014 18:33:43 GMT -5
RTN-
Sorry, I'm not understanding this. Where did the third pot go?
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Post by roadtonever on Feb 12, 2014 20:06:15 GMT -5
I'm terrible at explaining my ideas, I guess. The scheme I'm shooting for is: 2PU 3-way toggle Bridge always on in pos 2&3 Neck vol ("blend" in pos. 2) master tone
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Post by newey on Feb 12, 2014 21:43:06 GMT -5
OK, got it. You said "2 volumes" at some point and I was confused. I think your scheme will do as you intend it to do, but I'm not sure about the 500K resistor from the bridge pickup "hot" to the tone pot. I'm assuming that it is there to simulate the load of the missing pot, so as to better match the output of the neck pickup. But, the resistor goes from the pickup "hot" to the tone pot, and thence to output, In positions 2 and 3, when the bridge pup is on, the bridge hot connects through the switch to the same place, bypassing the resistor. So, in positions 2 and 3, the resistor doesn't seem to be doing much of anything, since the current would mostly flow through the switch to output. But, in position 1, when you want neck alone, you would still have a bit of bridge through the resistor. At least, that's what I'm seeing. But I could be all wet, let's get another set of eyes on this.
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Post by ashcatlt on Feb 12, 2014 23:51:16 GMT -5
The resistor is shorted any time the bridge pickup is deliberately selected, but the bridge pickup is only all the way off when the neck volume is turned all the way down, and then the whole thing is silent.
I'm just squinting at it, but I think that the bridge will be somewhere short of 10db down in the "neck only" position with the V at full. That's right around "enough" in a standard engineering practice kinda way, but will be a noticeable difference to the sort of madmen that inhabit this place.
The closest you're going to get is to put the resistor to ground (if you really think that bridge humbucker is too bright without it), "reverse" the wiring on the NV, and wire the 3 way like normal. The neck pickup has a volume control and the bridge doesn't. You don't need extra wires to have the bridge at position 2, nor to have that volume pot only affect the neck.
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Post by sumgai on Feb 13, 2014 1:14:13 GMT -5
The problem is I have only three holes. No, that's not a problem, because you can have as many holes as you want/need - that's why they make drill motors and drill bits! I didn't think so, I understood what you are after. But then again, I'm weird.... This says nothing about a second Volume control of any kind, which is specifically called out in the first sentence of your first post. Hence, it now looks to me like you want a guitar with the Bridge fully on at all times (when selected via the switch), and only the Neck pup gets any kind of volume reduction. You've seen what newey and ash had to say about your removal of Duncan's "other" Volume control and the insertion of your resistor, I'll concur with both of them. But I am curious.... what was your intent in placing that resistor there? sumgai EDITed to correct the quotes.
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Post by JohnH on Feb 13, 2014 1:55:34 GMT -5
Im not really sure whats intended here. If you really wanted two volumes id suggest s dual concentric pot-two pots on one shaft. Or lose the tone pot and either have two volumes or volume and blender. Somewhst muted tones can be found even without a tone pot, by turning down or slightly engaging a blender.
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Post by roadtonever on Feb 17, 2014 22:12:16 GMT -5
The closest you're going to get is to put the resistor to ground (if you really think that bridge humbucker is too bright without it), "reverse" the wiring on the NV, and wire the 3 way like normal. The neck pickup has a volume control and the bridge doesn't. You don't need extra wires to have the bridge at position 2, nor to have that volume pot only affect the neck. Resistor to ground, not output, got it. What does reverse the NV connections do, invert the taper?
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Post by ashcatlt on Feb 18, 2014 8:29:55 GMT -5
Just switch the left lug (currently from the pickup) with the middle so that turning that pot down doesn't short the output. I guess that one is kinda up to you. As is, if you turn the pot all the way down, you'll get silence in two positions of the switch. Wired "reversed" you will still here the bridge in the middle position, but it'll be a little noisier if you flip to the neck and turn down to go bet a beer.
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