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Post by jbales on Sept 24, 2015 13:31:02 GMT -5
Here's a diagram I conjured up on Paint for my upcoming LP overhaul. Please check it over, crit and advise. Cheers. Edit: Forgot to say. The colour codes are of the Irongear variety which go like this.. Screw Coil Start - Red Screw Coil Finish - Green Slug Coil Finish - White Slug Coil Start - Black
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Post by JohnH on Sept 24, 2015 15:29:02 GMT -5
I jbales, welcome to GN2 That's a nice diagram. I will review it and comment on it, since it is the same overall concept as one that I built.: LP MaxYours is a better start than mine though. back to you in a day or so
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Post by jbales on Sept 24, 2015 15:51:28 GMT -5
Wow, John, Thank you!
I look forward to seeing what you have to say.
I've been here before (10 years ago) under the name JimPlaysGuitar. I just couldn't remember my login details!
Cheers
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Post by newey on Sept 24, 2015 21:07:42 GMT -5
Which takes you back to the very beginning; JohnH is one of the few still around from that era.
Unfortunately, I don't have the capability to "see" your old login data. It is possible that the Founder, RandomHero, can do so, but he hasn't checked in for several years.
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Post by jbales on Sept 25, 2015 6:03:22 GMT -5
To be honest, Newey. I didn't have many posts on there and it's just more simple this way. I'm not too bothered.
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Post by newey on Sept 25, 2015 10:48:59 GMT -5
You had 83. That's quite a few for a member on this board. 25 posts used to be my cut-off for birthday wishes (which I don't do anymore), very few members got to that mark, even. While I can't fix your login problem, I can (and did) fix your post count so as to reflect your prior participation. This also takes you out of the "rookie solder flinger" category, so that newcomers will see that you're a veteran around here, for what it's worth. And, Welcome Back! EDIT: To anyone else who might be tempted to usurp an old member's info so as to get me to increase their post count, I should point out that I did so for jbales only after checking his new and old IP addys . . .
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Post by jbales on Sept 25, 2015 11:47:55 GMT -5
Wow, that's brilliant. I didn't know that was possible. Thank you, Newey. Now it looks like I've made 88 posts in a day! I'll be sure to stick around and help a few people out for the distant future. Cheers
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Post by JohnH on Sept 25, 2015 16:25:27 GMT -5
Here's a diagram I conjured up on Paint for my upcoming LP overhaul. Please check it over, crit and advise. Cheers. Edit: Forgot to say. The colour codes are of the Irongear variety which go like this.. Screw Coil Start - Red Screw Coil Finish - Green Slug Coil Finish - White Slug Coil Start - Black
I reckon it does what you say it does.
No doubt you have thought carefully about what settings to have, with the tones in the opposite order on each pickup.
In my one, I did not have a separate phase switch, but arranged to get phase reverse using one coil of each pickup. This provided in phase combos if different single coils were set, and oop combos with the same coils set on each pickup, all of which were humcancelling. I had it so that the neck pickup would always either be fully hum cancelling itself, or always make (say) 'positive' hum, and the bridge pickup would always be either humcancelling or make 'negative' hum. This arrangement, with no phase switch, gave quite a few hum cancelling or part humcancelling combos, and avoided the worst of where singles combine to add hum to each other. However, I could not get two full humbuckers oop together.
the switches that I bought, were the same as you need, 4p5T rotary's. They are very reliable (still fine 8 years later), though quite stiff to turn. My build was into a cheap LP-shaped bolt-on, and there was only just enough shaft length to get through the top with a nut. This would not have worked on a full LP with these switches without wood surgery.
Series oop is pretty nasty and thin - but can be used for the AM radio intro to 'Wish you were here'. Add it in parallel with a single coil of the other pickup though, and if you get the phase right, the result is a brighter single that is hum cancelling (interesting and true)
A good alternative to two single coils is to have one as full series with one coil bypassed by a cap (about 0.047uF is good). Its a thicker single-like sound, partly hum cancelling
Two neck single coils sound very similar if on their own. Two bridge singles sound a bit different to each other, but I prefer the cap bypassed sound as above there.
Good luck!
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Post by jbales on Sept 25, 2015 18:23:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, John.
I'd like to have the potential to OOP any of the 5 way positions, hence the separate switch. I realise that some combinations may be useless but would like first hand experience on it for future reference.
I've yet to go into the realm of using capacitors for anything other than high pass filters on tone pots. I like the idea you have about having the series HB with the second coil bypassed (in parallel with coil?) with a cap. Would it be a good idea to have this the opposite on either pickup? Say the north coil of the neck and south of the bridge?
The "LP" I have is an Agile copy with no maple cap. It's full mahogany with about 4mm of thickness in the pot holes so I think I'll be Okay. The only rotaries I've found useful are the ones found at StewMac because they're the only ones with splined shafts. I'd like them to work with speedies on them.
Cheers
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