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Post by sumgai on Mar 13, 2018 17:48:35 GMT -5
News this afternoon (PDT) tells us that Nokie Edwards, one of the original Ventures, has passed away yesterday, Monday the 12th of March, 2018. He died of complications from a surgery in December of last year.
The news has yet to hit his fan-run website, but theventures.com speaks of it briefly. Other news sites have more details, Bingle is your friend.
Question: How many copies of Walk Don't Run did you wear out, trying to cop all the licks therein? 
This is the definitive start of my exodus away from wind instruments and into the guitar world. I needed two copies to get the majority of everything they played, but over the years, and before the days of optical, I must have purchased (or traded for) at least a dozen copies in various formats. Yes, that means even 8-track!
Even after quitting 7 or 8 years ago, perhaps longer, my fingers still twitch whenever I hear that tune. Perhaps there's a message in there somewhere...
sumgai
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Post by gumbo on Mar 14, 2018 5:43:35 GMT -5
"Perhaps there's a message in there somewhere..." ...yup!  |
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Post by newey on Mar 14, 2018 5:58:43 GMT -5
Sad news indeed. "Walk, Don't Run" was also my intro to surf music, but it was The Venture's version of "Pipeline" that hooked me forever. For the benefit of our younger members, he's talking about a vinyl recording. It's a flat, black and circular thing with a hole in the middle. Unlike an mp3 file, they degraded a little with every playing.  |
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Post by thetragichero on Mar 14, 2018 10:00:06 GMT -5
Unlike an mp3 file, they degraded a little with every playing. as opposed to sounding like trash as soon as they were encoded? |
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Post by sumgai on Mar 14, 2018 12:09:18 GMT -5
Unlike an mp3 file, they degraded a little with every playing. as opposed to sounding like trash as soon as they were encoded? Why do I detect the distinct odor of Godwin's Law about to be invoked? |
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Post by sumgai on Mar 14, 2018 12:43:45 GMT -5
Currently residing on my drive, with more on my backup drives, 'cause my laptop can hold only so much.... In the Surf Music folder, I have ~60 gigs of mp3s, in 128Kb format. The vast majority of these came from exploding nearly 200 gigs worth of archive files, with nearly all of them being in 320Kb or equivalent in other formats (Ogg, aiff, etc.) Noteworthy is the fact that there are no Ventures in this collection, because they weren't, and still aren't, a surf music band. For them, I have several treasure troves that I have yet to dissect into playability... something like 130 gigs worth, IIRC. In the USA, they brought out over 100 albums, and a few singles, since 1960. In Japan, the number is quadruple that! Look at that again: more than 300 total albums aimed specifically at the Japanese market, plus those that first came out in America. Is it any wonder that all of them speak the language well, if not fluently? (Well, the original members anyways, I don't know about the replacement players.) In fact, Bob Bogle married a Japanese lady, way back when. If anyone wants a copy of my stuff, which will include everything from Enya all the way around the alphabet to Electric Church, I'm happy to share with you. But you'll need to bring along a drive with about 1.5 terabytes of free space!! And yes, so much material means that even my grandkids could all play material that none of the others will hear, and still they will never hear a repeat in their entire lives. Which begs the question - Why? Learning. Copying material that interests me, and having it to hand instead of going out and hoping to find it. I "acquire" it from a variety of sources, and my vinyl collection is about 450 discs strong, dating from the '60s or so. My CD collection is also not too shabby at 600 discs. But I don't trot those out so often any more, I've succumbed to the ease of mp3 and computers/iPods. < Danger - Strong opinion ahead, you've been warned!> What don't I have in my collection? cRap. Call me judgemental, but I don't believe you are furthering the cause of humanity when you're inciting people to "Off the pigs!". One of the few targets of my otherwise highly reserved disdain. </opinion> Ahh, another half-hour wasted in front of the screen. Time to get up and look productive around the house.  EDIT: I'm happy with this post, but I have to be honest. Some of my holdings are what we call "swarms". For instance, I have over 600 versions of Ghost Riders In The Sky. (Should that be ! instead of . ?) HOTRS, aka House Of The Rising Sun pantses that - over 900 versions, with only a few by the same singer at different points in their careers. Yes, this is vast overkill, but again, if I'm gonna stealborrow from artists, why limit myself to just a handful of possible licks and arrangements? Why not see what others contributed to the song, and see if I like it well enough to incorporate it into my repertoire? And also yes, I've stopped playing, so why bother? 'Cause I can't bring myself to worry over disk space. And maybe, just maybe, I'll save someone else the effort of trying to find something, sometime in the future. It would be a tragedy if one of you asked for a copy of "Cleopatre" by Egyptronic, and I had just deleted it last week. Although YouTube probably has as much esoteric material as I do.... (but not the Cleopatre tune!) sumgai |
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Post by reTrEaD on Mar 14, 2018 14:56:31 GMT -5
If anyone wants a copy of my stuff, which will include everything from Enya all the way around the alphabet to Electric Church, I'm happy to share with you. But you'll need to bring along a drive with about 1.5 terabytes of free space!! And yes, so much material means that even my grandkids could all play material that none of the others will hear, and still they will never hear a repeat in their entire lives. Which begs the question - Why? Plus your Grandchildren can pass it along to their Grandchildren who will say: "Wow! Check out the relic Great-Great-Granddaddy left behind. A gigantic monstrosity that's as big as one of those wallet things people in ancient times used. And it only holds a few measly terabytes of data. Can you imagine how primitive life must have been before grain-of-sand zettabyte data storage?" |
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Post by sumgai on Mar 15, 2018 0:24:08 GMT -5
^^^^ Yeah, yeah, just rub it in, why doncha. Sheesh.   I have three each 3TB drives, and the backup runs every week in Grandfather-Father-Son rotation. At any time, I'm 3-5 percent out of sync across the set. Makes things a bit hairy, should anything go bump in the night, but at this point, I've given up caring so much. Rather, I also have a collection of old time movies that I trot out for a look-see 4-5 nights a week. Which brings up my question: Where can I purchase one of those new-fangled zettabyte thingies, please?  |
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Post by reTrEaD on Mar 15, 2018 4:23:01 GMT -5
You misspelled when.
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Post by sumgai on Mar 15, 2018 11:44:10 GMT -5
I wasn't looking specifically for grain-of-sand sized units, I'll take anything so small as a kitchen microwave or thereaboots....
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Post by Yogi B on Mar 15, 2018 19:35:55 GMT -5
I'll take anything so small as a kitchen microwave or thereaboots.... Well about the highest information density I've come across is probably these. If I were to fill my microwave with those I'd end up with about a measly 350 petabytes, so we're still a a good few orders of magnitude off yet. |
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Post by blademaster2 on Mar 16, 2018 8:44:55 GMT -5
Sad news indeed. "Walk, Don't Run" was also my intro to surf music, but it was The Venture's version of "Pipeline" that hooked me forever. For the benefit of our younger members, he's talking about a vinyl recording. It's a flat, black and circular thing with a hole in the middle. Unlike an mp3 file, they degraded a little with every playing. Have you noticed that coloured (Canadian spelling) vinyl is returning now? That was a desperate attempt in the late 70's to give vinyl a boost because it was starting to lose out to cassette tape. By 1988 vinyl was so uncool people would literally toss them to the curb by the boxload along with their Denon turntables. I am glad I never did that, although I was quite fed up with the poor quality of those later pressings and did go to CD myself back then. Now I support vinyl, CD, and MP3 formats - my favourite medium for convenience and sound quality is vinyl source material recorded to CD. |
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Post by sumgai on Mar 17, 2018 13:00:25 GMT -5
I think have finally grabbed the pebble from my sensei's hand! He has not appeared to derail my own derailment. I'll take that as a compliment!  |
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Post by gumbo on Mar 18, 2018 16:32:21 GMT -5
I think have finally grabbed the pebble from my sensei's hand! He has not appeared to derail my own derailment. I'll take that as a compliment! ....just very busy at the moment.... ...don't worry, it's coming... |
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Post by sumgai on Mar 19, 2018 10:56:59 GMT -5
I think have finally grabbed the pebble from my sensei's hand! He has not appeared to derail my own derailment. I'll take that as a compliment! ....just very busy at the moment.... ...don't worry, it's coming... Quick, before the multiply - put a Sheik or a Trojan on it!!! |
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