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Post by Happyguy on Mar 12, 2006 13:14:18 GMT -5
Ok, so I got up today and it was raining. A few minuits later the guitar is all in pieces . So I sanded and finished the fretboard. Now I am attacking the electronics part... What I have is s/s/h. Before I had Dan armstrongs mod www.dominocs.com/ToneWorks/armstrongstrat.html. Now I want this mod + series/paralell/split for the humbucker (I have the 3 way switch). I would also like to add phasing to this. (I have 250k push pull pots) The questions : 1. The stock pots on the guitar are 500KA for the tones and B500K for the volume (written on the front) Can I replace these with the 250k push pulls? (and what value capacitor would be best for the tone) 2. I will have 2 push pulls to devote to the phase control(3 holes in pickguard:1 master volume/phase, 2 master tone/phase, 3 humbucker splitter) . Wich pickups should be used on the phase? (I would like the most options possible) Also the humbucker will already be hooked up to a series/parallel/split switch. Thank you, I am sorry if this dosn't make much sense I lack in... talking skills
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Post by Mini-Strat_Maine on Mar 12, 2006 14:10:42 GMT -5
1. The stock pots on the guitar are 500KA for the tones and B500K for the volume (written on the front) Can I replace these with the 250k push pulls? As a rule, it's 500K pots for humbuckers, and 250K for singlecoils. You could do something different, but just be aware that it'll change the tone. (Somebody else can elaborate on the brighter/warmer comparison stuff.) The 'A' and 'B' on the pots indicates their taper. Probably 'A' is audio (logarithmic, or "log") and 'B' is linear taper, but there was a time when the reverse was true. If you're going to swap them for push/pulls, you could buy all of the new ones with the same taper. I'd get 'em all as audio, but maybe that's just me.
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Post by Happyguy on Mar 12, 2006 14:52:55 GMT -5
They are single coils... so i guess it will sound darker with the 250k pots. Or more normal either way. What capacitor for the tone would be ideal (I like bright tone) also would the phase be best just on neck and middle pickups ( I was thinking that neck+middle in phase but out of phase with bridge might sound intersting ) Thanks for your reply
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Post by Mini-Strat_Maine on Mar 12, 2006 16:32:27 GMT -5
They are single coils... so i guess it will sound darker with the 250k pots. Or more normal either way. What capacitor for the tone would be ideal (I like bright tone) EDIT: Yep, you're right. I had it backwards (again). Higher resistances load the pickups less, thereby allowing more highs to be present. (There's a mnemonic in there somewhere.) Thanks, U.M. I can't be much help with the phasing questions, but as far as capacitors, a .015µF would probably be considered "brighter." (Some vendors sell those as their "Woman Tone" cap.) I've seen several guitars that came with .022µF caps in them. Darker ones would be .033 or .047 (".050"). You could experiment to see what you like best.
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Post by jhng on Mar 13, 2006 13:10:50 GMT -5
Regarding the phase switches:
I would be tempted to put them on neck and middle simply to avoid having to integrate them with the series/single/paralell switch. By putting both neck and mid out of phase you have the equivalent of just putting bridge out of phase.
Can't access the Dan Armstrong schematic: is it the one with the three mini-toggles? If you were doing a standard strat set up I just had a rather neat idea:
You could sacrifice the parallel setting on your series/single/parallel switch for the HB and instead use it to put one coil of the HB in series with the neck single coil in positions 1 and 2. I reckon that would be a pretty simple mod but with phase switching would add a handful of handy sounds.
Hastings
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Post by sumgai on Mar 13, 2006 17:14:08 GMT -5
....... You could sacrifice the parallel setting on your series/single/parallel switch for the HB and instead use it to put one coil of the HB in series with the neck single coil in positions 1 and 2. I reckon that would be a pretty simple mod but with phase switching would add a handful of handy sounds. Hastings I am currently using this setup for my 'alternate' 4 and 5 positions. Some tunes I play come out sounding much more like the original... I just may have to make permanent room for these selections. ;D sumgai
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Post by servant on Mar 13, 2006 19:49:29 GMT -5
Can't access the Dan Armstrong schematic: Yeah, happyguy, can you remove the period from the end of the link? I took that out and it worked fine, but would be easier if it were just gone. Here it is: www.dominocs.com/ToneWorks/armstrongstrat.html but others will try that first link, well, first! Thanks, Dean
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Post by Happyguy on Mar 14, 2006 16:03:49 GMT -5
Hey thanks for helping out. So its all done, I wired the phase to neck and middle... and IT won't fit in the guitar. There are to many wires. It almost fits... But by forcing it a little I disconnected some wires :s. I am using shielded wire that is much bigger than normal wire. Do you guys think that normal wire is a big loss in quality (I might rewire with the smaller wires)
Thank you again
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Post by sumgai on Mar 14, 2006 17:56:11 GMT -5
happyguy,
If you've properly shielded the cavities, you don't need co-axial cabling (IOW, shielded cable). That stuff is way overkill for the job, not to mention that it has both an impedance and a capacitance that could well drag your tone down into the gutter, even at those short distances. Plus, just to add icing to the cake, you run the risk of creating ground loops galore. (Check the GuitarNuts1 site for more info on this topic.)
Hate to say it, buddy, but it's time to strip that stuff back out of there, and use the 20 or 22 guage wire normally found inside of a guitar. Color coding would be nice, but not a necessity. Stranded wire or solid core, there's no difference, if you don't have any onhand, then get whichever is cheaper.
sumgai
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Post by Happyguy on Mar 16, 2006 19:04:22 GMT -5
Well... now I know lol. I have restarted all. Will porbably be finished sometime tonight. Will come and rant about results lol
Thanks for the help, this forum is the best.
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Post by Happyguy on Mar 16, 2006 21:24:51 GMT -5
DONE!!!!!! Wow im realy REALY pleased, To all new people considering modifing your guitar. Out of phase sounds are GOOD . So with this mod I get -selection of pickups -series/parallel -phase -humbucker splitting I think most of the sounds are there... there is even neck+middle in series with bridge (i think) This may be small potatoes to most of you people... but damn... Im HAPPY
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