500k or 250k tone does it sound different?

[markuser]

Stupid question, I had to ask. If I use a 250k or 500k tone control potentiometer will the sound change?

And if I wired a split on a push pull so it functions, but the positions are reversed, what did I do wrong?

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have a look on youtube see if you can hear the differences
know normally its 500K with 22nF
and 250K with 47nF
feels like they lower one side and up the other!

>SORRY Read it Wrong< 

[sumgai]

mark,


Hi, and to The NutzHouse!

Aug 24, 2019 13:46:58 GMT -5 markuser said:

Stupid question, I had to ask. If I use a 250k or 500k tone control potentiometer will the sound change?

In most cases, yes, you can hear a difference - when the control is turned all the way up to 10. And critically important, only when there are no other influences involved that may make it hard(er) to tell the difference. By that I mean, no other sounds such as a band going full bore... that'll mask any differences for sure. Other components being changed while changing the pot will also skew your listening results, so watch out for that "gotcha". Even such a simple thing like changing strings will cause your ears to go "What the....".

But in general, with the control set to 10, you'll get a brighter overall tone with a higher value pot.  In essence, you can get the "sound" of a 250K pot while using a 500K pot simply by turning down the 500K unit to about 8 for a log taper pot (sometimes called an audio taper), or down to about 5 for a linear taper pot. 

And if I wired a split on a push pull so it functions, but the positions are reversed, what did I do wrong?

Yes, you have it correct - you've chosen the wrong set of terminals to solder your wires onto. Simply put those wires on the opposite set of terminals, and you'll be good to go.

HTH





sumgai

[markuser]

insert code hereAwesome. Thanks.

[markuser]

So in this diagram , what terminals would I switch? I used Fat Five switching.

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Never seen Neck and Bridge in Series out of Phase 

>I'm sorry for reading the second part of the question wrong.<

If wired up the Coil Split wrong, as far as i can see just a matter of making that Solo Cable at the End over to the other pin to the side.

Humbucker spliting..
I dont do colours that well (colour blind and other companies changing colours THAN TALKING TO EACH OTHER AND HAVING A STANDARD to make life easier for ALL!!) 
To Find Top/Bottom Pickup just do the DC Resistance over the cables till you get a Value
Now to Find which cables belong to which Pickup, i tend to cheat and just Connect to a JACK and AMP and SLAP them pickups with a bit of Metal! 
....
I dont have a CLUE how to say what is HOT and NOT at the moment without thinking more.
....
Humbucker has two parts, call it North/South with N being the HOT and n being the NOT! S and s.
N to Output Switch, n to Common SwitchA, S to Common SwitchB, s to Ground.
SwitchA0 to SwitchB0
Now depending if you want the North/South to be the Single Pickup
NORTH... SwitchA1 and SwitchB1 to Ground. Making North and Grounding both sides of South.
SOUTH... SwitchA1 and SwitchB1 to Output Switch. Making both sides North Output Switch and adding South.
This just makes both ends of the Non used pickup the same value so its cut out...

On your NECK pickup you got a SOUTH pickup coming in to play when going in to single mode.
And on the BRIDGE pickup you got the NORTH pickup in play on the single mode.

	Switch A	SwitchB
1	LINK	LINK
C	n	S
0	GND/OUT	GND/OUT

GND for North, OUT for South
NB Top bit of the switch (Nearest to the POT) I called 1 (on) so in this case that would be UP is HUM and DOWN is Single, so if you wanted it the other way around, just Flip the Wires, 0 LINK to each sound and  1 to GND/OUT

If the top Switch had been Hooked up with YELLOW than BROWN it would be the Neck NORTH Side
as with the GREEN (on the switch only)  been hooked up with PURPLE it would of been Bridge SOUTH Side

[newey]

Simply put those wires on the opposite set of terminals, and you'll be good to go.

Let's clarify this a bit. Your diagram shows the P/P pot on its side, but let's imagine that it is standing upright, as it will be in your guitar, The two center lugs (one on each side) are the common lugs. When the knob is pushed down, each center lug connects to the lug below it; when pulled up, each center lug connects to the lug above it.

If the switch is operating in reverse, then you need to swap the wiring from the upper lugs to the lower lugs. In your diagram, this will mean swapping the wiring from the left-hand lugs to the right, and vice versa. The wiring to the center lugs remains unchanged.

[markuser]

Looking at my Fat Five picture, at the tone control identified by cap. The orange wire should be moved to the other sides open pin?  Doing the same for the Volume knobs blue. Then it should be set.

[markuser]

Nope. That did not do it.

I moved the orange and blue wires over to the next terminal. Nothing but improper functions.

Would the wires beneath them need to be swapped? Mine are Duncan so theyre red and white to split.

Angels bunny, you are probably telling me something and Im too stupid to understand that explanation at maximum verbosity. That's thesis level,  gimme village drunkard.

[markuser]

How about switching the positions vertically. In the picture the Black and silver would be on top, and the tones orange and volumes blue would be in the middle.

Edit-- nope.

How about if I wire the box of 6 upside down, would that reverse the operation?

Struggling an d frustrated.

[newey]

How about switching the positions vertically

OK, let's put down the soldering iron for a bit. A picture should help:



What I was saying is to swap the upper Right with lower right, upper left with lower left. Center terminals remain untouched.

Note that the orientation of the pots in your diagram is mirror-imaged- one pot is on the right and the other goes to the left. The Upper lugs on both volume and tone pots are jumpered together, if the pot
s are functioning opposite when wired per the diagram, you would swap those jumpers to the lower lugs (again, as seen with the pot in its installed position).

Then the wires to the lower lugs are swapped to the upper lugs.

[markuser]

Upsidedown would work then. ...fires up soldering iron