Momentary Kill + Momentary Series

[cmscss]

Hi There, I've tried understanding this one but still have no idea what I'm doing sorry!

Does anyone know how I'd wire in this series/parallel momentary switch?
www.dropbox.com/s/pz7jl5r86g2gibd/3-way-strat-series-parallel-reversible-kill-switch-3.JPG?dl=0

Any help or pointers in the right direction would be much appreciated. Cheers

[cmscss]

I also tried transferring this wiring diagram but the 3-way switch is wired very differently so became confused sorry.

Also, the numbers on the DPDT are different to what's on mine so I'm unsure if I just translate the numbers straight over to my switch or if i need to go with positions?

[newey]

Here's what I came up with. But it's not what you want, as this iteration only puts the pickups in series if the 3-way is set to the neck or middle positions. There's probably a way to make it work for all positions of the 3-way but I'm not seeing it. But maybe this will get you started and you can figure it out.

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I was wondering what was going on with this KILL Switch ... its a Two way Light Switch Circuit



as i see your Circuit on Post 2 Top works for the Switching Selection of the Pickups
and yoru Circuit Post 2 Bottom works for your "Kill Switching"

[cmscss]

Thanks for the answers guys.

I'm sorry but I seem to have a mental block when it comes to wiring - circuit diagrams are logical to me but wiring layouts make no sense at all sorry.

I've done my best to translate a 3-way switch and toggle diagram that gives series in all positions (it seems the 3-way switch needs to be wired differently) but I'm just moving wires around, I have no idea of the implications!

Does anyone know how this all works?

[newey]

Had another look at this. I think this will work:

[cmscss]

Thanks so much. Will wire a standard tele wiring first, then will give this a go - thank you, much appreciated.

[cmscss]

Had a few problems so purchased a new 3-way switch which was the opposite to my original so had trouble transferring your wiring sorry.

However, this works perfectly except the series momentary is on series, the opposite from what I want.

I tried switching pins 5 and 6 but that didn't work. Which wires should I swap on the series momentary to get series only when the button is down?

[newey]

I tried switching pins 5 and 6 but that didn't work. Which wires should I swap on the series momentary to get series only when the button is down?

Well, you didn't follow my diagram . . .

On a momentary switch, without the switch button being depressed (or the toggle flipped, if it's a toggle-type momentary switch) is the "normal" state of the switch. So, without pressing the button, the two commmon lugs are connected to the corresponding "NC" lug (i.e., "normally closed"). Pressing the button opens this connection while closing the connection between the common lugs and the corresponding "NO" ("normally open")lugs. On one pole of the switch, the neck - is connected to the common lug; with the switch closed, the NC lug connects it to the ground so you get the neck pickup in parallel. Pushing the button switches the neck - onto the bridge + to give your series setting. The second pole switches the bridge + from lugs 1 and 2 of the 5-way, with the switch closed, and the neck -, and also bypasses the 5-way switch.

Nobody double-checked my diagram but I'm pretty sure it's good to go. There may be other ways to do this. Notice how I show the 5-way switch wired, differently than you do. I was not able to bypass the 5-way when in series mode with the wiring of the 5-way as you show it.

[cmscss]

Thanks for the reply.

The reason I didn't use your wiring is because my original 3-way switch is different from every other switch out there and I didn't know if that was taken into account? Will have a good read-through of your answer to try and understand it.

But I now have a normal switch so will the wiring digram as posted work with my new 3-way or does it need to be translated?

[newey]

Sept 5, 2022 23:31:44 GMT -5 cmscss said:

my original 3-way switch is different from every other switch out there

In what way? I was assuming a std 3-way lever switch, 2P3T. If you now have that, the diagram should work.

[cmscss]

Sept 6, 2022 4:44:51 GMT -5 newey said:

Sept 5, 2022 23:31:44 GMT -5 cmscss said:

my original 3-way switch is different from every other switch out there

In what way? I was assuming a std 3-way lever switch, 2P3T. If you now have that, the diagram should work.

When I tried to use this switch in other threads, other users couldn't work out what was wrong so they had me test it with a multimeter and it needed to be wired differently - this was a few years back. And don't ask me why cause I didn't really understand it!

Anyway, now that I have anormal switch, I'll use your wring. Thank you, much appreciated.