no pots schematic

[ispas]

Hello,

Can you please tell me what can happenn when I do not use any pots at all? I mean I never use my pots, the volume stays at 10 and the tone on treble. Can I eliminate them? mabe some of the hum will evaporate or something... oh, I use two single coils.

Tanks,
Ispas

[wolf]

If you don't use any "pots" at all, your guitar signal will be slightly louder and slightly brighter than a guitar that has volume and tone controls.

The biggest advantage of volume and tone controls on a guitar is convenience - sounds can be varied from the guitar instead of going to the amplifier. If you are only going to play the guitar at home, foregoing "pots" is not so bad. However, on stage, I think everybody needs these.

Eliminating the pots won't reduce hum. If you have 2 single coils, is one a different magnetic polarity and different winding than the other? If so, when both coils are on, they should be hum cancelling.

[UnklMickey]

the other thing about not having pots,

if you physically remove them, you will probably have to come up with another strategy for connecting the grounds together.

most times, the grounds are all soldered onto the back of the volume pot.



unk

[sumgai]

Issy,

Hello,

Can you please tell me what can happenn when I do not use any pots at all?
.......

I can tell you the last thing that will happen when you remove the pots..... You will reach into your wallet and extract US$15 to hand to the nice salesman at your local music store. You will do this in order to take home a shiny new pickguard that doesn't have any holes in it, so that your axe doesn't look like it was butchered by Freddy Krueger. ;D


sumgai

[UnklMickey]

sumgai said:

...You will do this in order to take home a shiny new pickguard that doesn't have any holes in it, so that your axe doesn't look like it was butchered by Freddy Krueger....

dude, we're out of touch.

having an axe that looks like it's been axed is exactly what some guys (not sumgais) are going for these daze.


unk

[sumgai]

unk,

...You will do this in order to take home a shiny new pickguard that doesn't have any holes in it, so that your axe doesn't look like it was butchered by Freddy Krueger....

dude, we're out of touch.

having an axe that looks like it's been axed is exactly what some guys (not sumgais) are going for these daze.

unk

And here I thought that in order to be in touch, I first had to reach out. Dang, they got me again!


sumgai

[ispas]

Hello,

Thanks for you advice. I play electricquitar with my band at my rehearsal place, in one year i have never used the pots, so I now intend to make another guitar without pots. From your answers I get that is ok with removing them, accept for a shielding problem. Anyway my guitar shielding sucks, so it doesen't matter if I remove them. I read on this forum that the hum can be somehow eliminated by using some copper band, I will do that also to the new guitar. And I have two seymour duncan sjag-3 for jaguar.

ispas

[fobits]

You could just disconnect the wires and leave the pots in place to fill the holes. If you decide that you like it that way, then you can think about making a new pickguard.

Try first, buy later ;D

I haven't seen a diagram for a Jaguar (cool guitar, BTW), but it shouldn't be hard.

On the volume pot one wire will come from the selector and another will go to the output jack. To eliminate the volume control, connect those directly together.

The tone control will probably have just one wire coming to it. Disconnect the wire, preferably at the other end, and the tone control is out of the circuit.

Happy modding

[sumgai]

issy,

Hey man, are you referring to a Fender Jaguar? Because if you are, then defacing that would be a real bummer.

Frank has the right idea - leave the outer appearance alone, and just diddle the innards. (BTW, Frank, the pots don't sit in a plastic pickguard, they're in a chunk of chrome plated metal, so you and I are both wrong.)

fobits said:

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On the volume pot one wire will come from the selector and another will go to the output jack. To eliminate the volume control, connect those directly together.

The tone control will probably have just one wire coming to it. Disconnect the wire, preferably at the other end, and the tone control is out of the circuit.

Sorry to say, but that won't quite cut the mustard. Consider: if the two terminals are merely shorted together, then the resistance element is still sitting in parallel with the output line, isn't it? Net effect - tone loss is still evident. Instead, under ordinarly circumstances, you'd have to disconnect the selector switch line from the upper terminal of the pot, and solder it to the wiper connection. That will bypass the pot for sure.

However, in the case at hand, we see that the Fender Jaguar is a wired up a bit differently. (In point of fact, so is the Fender Jazzmaster.) Here, you'll remove the blue wire coming from the switch(s) to the the tone pot, and solder it onto the output jack where there is currently a green wire. If you want to leave the Rhythm circuit intact, leave the green wire. If you don't want that (never use it), then disconnect the green wire from the jack.

Just to save you some effort, here's a schematic of the Fender Jaguar:

Note that this is from www.fenderjaguar.net. This is a good resource, but if you'll google for Fender Jaguar, you'll find a lot of other websites, most of them equally good, and offering different materials. But the schematic is timeless, so don't expect to find any different ones.

HTH


sumgai

[fobits]

Consider: if the two terminals are merely shorted together, then the resistance element is still sitting in parallel with the output line, isn't it?

The best way would be to remove them from the pot and connect them directly together.

Instead, under ordinary circumstances, you'd have to disconnect the selector switch line from the upper terminal of the pot, and solder it to the wiper connection. That will bypass the pot for sure.

Am I missing something here? It will be bypassed to the output, but there will still be a variable resistance to ground. Turning it down would short out everything.

However, in the case at hand, we see that the Fender Jaguar is a wired up a bit differently.

It sure is. I guess I was making unwarranted assumptions. If it's a Jaguar, ignore what I said about the tone control.

On the other hand, if only the pickups are Jaguar (you aren't too clear about that), then we are all going off on a wild goose chase.

[sumgai]

Frank,

Instead, under ordinary circumstances, you'd have to disconnect the selector switch line from the upper terminal of the pot, and solder it to the wiper connection. That will bypass the pot for sure.

Am I missing something here? It will be bypassed to the output, but there will still be a variable resistance to ground. Turning it down would short out everything.

Could be, but then again, I'm not a eye doctor. No, you're correct, I mis-spoke myself. The bottom line, is there is no "best terminal" on the pot that is suitable for use as a connection terminal, unless the grounded terminal is also disconnected from the pot's casing. Short of that, another location will have to be found in order to solder the two wires together. If not, then just splicing them together with some insulating tape will have to suffice. (But that's not my preferred method, to be sure.)

On the other hand, if only the pickups are Jaguar (you aren't too clear about that), then we are all going off on a wild goose chase.

Amen to that!


sumgai

[ispas]

Yes, only the pickups are for jaguar... anyway, may new guitar will have no pots. From what I understand the soune will not be altered very much, the pickups will have finaly have their natural sonut, and not from the stupid connection I've made... Thanks guys for the adivices.

ispas

[vonFrenchie]

Jerry Only from the misfits has a (i think) single pickup bass without pots. Im positive it doesnt have pots. I was thinkin about having one of my guitars wired like the bottom from this page www.guitarelectronics.com/category/wiringresources.1wiringdiagrams.humbuckerwiringmods/
Then having them go out to phase inverters (so I can make the entire pickup out of phase) then out. Because I, like ispas, dont touch my knobs when I play guitar.

If you had a guitar with one (per pickup) Fender No-Load as your tone pot and nothing else. Is it possible to have the "potless sound".

[ChrisK]

Regarding;

Can you please tell me what can happen when I do not use any pots at all?

Couldn't you just set them to where you want them....

.....and like JUST NOT USE THEM?

Seems like a small tone adjustment at your amp will give the same result as gutting.


Just because my VR4 will go 165 MPH doesn't mean that I HAVE TO.

[vonFrenchie]

No Chris... it means you have to push it to 170 mph

[ChrisK]

Well, I've gone 160MPH+ (260 KPH) on the Autobahn many times and 200+ more than once.

However, since F=MA,

I CAN drive 55.

[vonFrenchie]

Is it possible to wire capacitors to switches in order to change the tone?

[sumgai]

vF,

Is it possible to wire capacitors to switches in order to change the tone?

Not sure why no one's answered you on this already......

Try searching on "capacitors switch", and let the results go back about 45 or 60 days. There have been a couple of threads in the last few months regarding just how to do this, and some of the posts include adding an inductor too.

Of course, if this doesn't answer your question, then holler louder! ;D


sumgai

[vonFrenchie]

Then shouldnt this guy be able to put a screw in his cavity (some jackson's have this) with some aluminum to it and a eyelet then soldering your wires to the eyelet and the pickup to the switch.

I couldnt find the capacitor switch post.