Cap Value Recommendations....

[crazymanandy]

Hey guys,

What cap value do you generally prefer for the Tele tone pot?

I'm also wondering what you think would be best with a 3 pickup Tele:

Tele Bridge (Alnico III) 9.1K | P90 (Alnico II/V) ~7.9K | Tele Neck (Alnico V) 7.6K

CMA

[ChrisK]

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I think that the traditional one is 0.047 uF (although the original used 0.1 uF). I use 0.022 uF AND 0.047 uF with a ON-ON-ON switch for 0.047 uF, 0.022 uF, and 0.015 uF (both in series fer the "Woman Tone" 'cuz I know it driver unk GeFooey).

guitarnuts2.proboards45.com/index.cgi?board=schem&action=display&thread=1140140143


The Tele control plate only has two screws (and is low voltage), experiment!

[crazymanandy]

Heh, yeh I like that on-on-on idea. I was actually contemplating using a varitone of some sort, but I don't really want to put it on if I can't fit it on the control plate, I've already got a on-on-on switch for wiring the pickups to go on there. I suppose I could use a dual concentric pot for volume/tone to open a little extra room.

Or I could just experiment with different caps! Only two screws, right?

CMA

[ChrisK]

Yeah, but them on-on-on (DPDT center-ON) switches are dinky, you can fit two (er, more).

The control panel;


I've done some TeleCrazy things:

[crazymanandy]

Your on-on-on cap switch is growin' on me!

Could you draw up a diagram showing that switch and the tone pot? Unfortunately, I can't make heads or tails of the diagram in that thread, lol.

Do you find three knobs close together like that to be cumbersome?

CMA

[ChrisK]

Could you draw up a diagram showing that switch and the tone pot?

Yes, but I won't. 'Nuff free fish, You're going to have to learn here.

Unfortunately, I can't make heads or tails of the diagram in that thread

Why not?

Start with the part that sez "OUT" and "COM" and work yer way inward. (You don't have to understand the whole world atlas to read a map of yer hometown.)

The Green wire is Ground, the Orange wire is the pickup(s) signal Output.

P1 is the volume pot (with a treble bypass cap).

The applicable (and only) tone pot is P3. The applicable tone cap selector switch and capacitors is S2.

Switch S3 is unrelated to the volume and tone controls and selects three effective cap values (none, 330 pF, and 1,300 pF) to detune the bandpass response of the pickups (makes 'em warmer and "peaky", kinda like Texas or sumpthin').

The rest of the stuff is just switching and wiring that does exactly what the "Modes" chart sez (peel slowly and "see").


These are the heads, you can forget the tails.


THERE WILL BE A TEST ON THIS.

[crazymanandy]

chrisk said:

Yes, but I won't. 'Nuff free fish, You're going to have to learn here.

You're no fun! Everyone else gets a sucker, where's mine!

Why not?

Mostly because I haven't learned to read electrical diagrams, but that's my fault.

Start with the part that sez "OUT" and "COM" and work yer way inward. (You don't have to understand the whole world atlas to read a map of yer hometown.)

The Green wire is Ground, the Orange wire is the pickup(s) signal Output.

P1 is the volume pot (with a treble bypass cap).

The applicable (and only) tone pot is P3. The applicable tone cap selector switch and capacitors is S2.

Switch S3 is unrelated to the volume and tone controls and selects three effective cap values (none, 330 pF, and 1,300 pF) to detune the bandpass response of the pickups (makes 'em warmer and "peaky", kinda like Texas or sumpthin').

The rest of the stuff is just switching and wiring that does exactly what the "Modes" chart sez (peel slowly and "see").


These are the heads, you can forget the tails.


THERE WILL BE A TEST ON THIS.

Your explanation of the diagram really helps clear it up a bit. Now, on the DPDT switch, you've got the blue lines representing wire. What are the little arrows?

Thanks Chris,
CMA

[ChrisK]

Mostly because I haven't learned to read electrical diagrams

It's just another language.

What are the little arrows?

They show the switching connections of the switches.

(Bottom view for the toggles as the drawing indicates.)
guitarnuts2.proboards45.com/index.cgi?board=schem&action=display&thread=1158705194

There actually is a method to my method........


You could also use a push pull pot for the tone and switch between two caps.

[crazymanandy]

It's just another language.

So is Chinese!

They show the switching connections of the switches.

(Bottom view for the toggles as the drawing indicates.)
guitarnuts2.proboards45.com/index.cgi?board=schem&action=display&thread=1158705194

I thought they looked oddly familiar.

There actually is a method to my method........

I never doubted you!

So, does this look about right to you?

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Beautiful, eh?

You could also use a push pull pot for the tone and switch between two caps.

Ok, now your just trying throw me off with more of your electrical wizardry. ;D

CMA

[ChrisK]

OK, give it a try. Be sure to mind where I have each value of cap.