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Post by 96telesrule on Aug 30, 2007 14:07:19 GMT -5
i have a 96 tele deluxe that i just refinished and i am wanting to do some modification to the tone. it has three pickups and a standard 5-way switch. What i was wanting to do is change the middle position so that instead of the middle pickup, it would be the neck and bridge,like a standard tele. ... then i am going to add a tbx tone control in for some different sounds as well.
if anyone has a shematic like this or something similar please let me know
and i also need to know if i will need a "superswitch" to that with too
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Post by sumgai on Aug 31, 2007 4:06:04 GMT -5
96tr, Hi, and welcome to the NutsHouse! ;D No to that superswitch, your request can be fulfilled with a regular 2 pole, 5 position pickup selector switch, like so: As for your TBX circuit, I don't believe we have anything here like that, but hang on a moment.......... Ah yes, a quick search reveals that you might find something of value here. HTH sumgai
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Post by 96telesrule on Sept 1, 2007 10:24:35 GMT -5
hey thanks a bunch, but ..... i have a problem. the switch that i have only has four contacts per side, will it still work............... or am i missing something? lol kinda new to this and in your schematic i only see one cap. my guitar originaly has two ......
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Post by 96telesrule on Sept 1, 2007 11:34:19 GMT -5
i could get hold of a mega switch too as well....as seen on stewmac if that would make it easier
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Post by sumgai on Sept 1, 2007 14:26:14 GMT -5
96tr, Are you positive that your switch is original equipment in that guitar? That's just plain nuts, finding a 1960's style Strat switch inside a 1990's guitar........... (Chris, you called it right, my apologies! ) OK, the next answer is, yes, you'll need to upgrade your switch - the version that you have now (with 3 discrete terminals and a common, on each side) won't fulfill your desires. Fortunately, you don't need a fancy superswitch or megaswitch, the standard (and proper!) 2P5T that I showed above will do the job. Your local music store might have them, albeit for a few bucks more than an on-line store. Gratification is. You have two tone caps in there? That's really perplexing. That means that this circuit is newer in design, but it's using an ancient switch........ WTH? I have to admit, it's possible, but it's like Mount Everest - just because it's there doesn't mean you have to climb it! I wonder if Fender was simply using up an old stock of parts........ Anyway, you can leave your tone setup as is, or you can simplify like my diagram above, that'd be up to you. ................. Next thought...... If you're willing to move that bridge-neck combination away from the middle, you could simply swap the bridge and middle leads around, on your current switch. This will sacrifice the middle and neck combo, but you'll get the desired one, in the second position. (You can swap the neck lead instead, if that suits your fancy.) This is the quick and dirty way to get the sound you're asking for, and cheap to boot! ;D HTH sumgai
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Post by 96telesrule on Sept 1, 2007 15:15:18 GMT -5
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Post by 96telesrule on Sept 1, 2007 15:16:52 GMT -5
and i will be replacing the pots anyways because they dont work......... burned them up with a solder iron that wasnt hot enough
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Post by 96telesrule on Sept 1, 2007 15:33:08 GMT -5
and do you have a link..... i can't even find a 2p5t switch online
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Post by 96telesrule on Sept 1, 2007 17:40:44 GMT -5
ok i figured out what to do ........ i found a design on guitar nuts that is a neck on off switch, witch no matter where im at i can turn on the neck using a push pull (which would be the volume, in my case) with the tbx tone
and also thinkin of putting a phase in, phase out, 2-way switch in there as well for the neck ....................... between the pots
now that would give me a pretty good lot of tone options wouldn't it and still use the same 5-way switch i got lol
just looking for some options ...... and i dont care to spend a little money on a good setup
and i found out what the 2nd cap is for.... it is a high pass cap on the volume
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Post by ChrisK on Sept 1, 2007 20:32:51 GMT -5
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Post by setain on Sept 1, 2007 20:43:03 GMT -5
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Post by ChrisK on Sept 1, 2007 21:19:20 GMT -5
WD was it, thanks. Also, www.angela.com/ has them for $9.99 (halfway down in Strat parts).
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Post by sumgai on Sept 2, 2007 2:13:54 GMT -5
I was gonna mention that a single wafer (2 poles) version could be found here, but then I found an actual superswitch (4P5T) here, for less money - only $11.25 (about half way down the page). The difference might come down to either shipping, availability, friendliness of customer service, or a combination. Or there are other sites that have them (strange that guitarelectronics doesn't!), but probably not much cheaper. And for the record, I did my "shopping" via The LINKS PAGE.... sort of. HTH sumgai
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Post by 96telesrule on Sept 3, 2007 14:44:30 GMT -5
ok i figured out what to do ........ i found a design on guitar nuts that is a neck on off switch, witch no matter where im at i can turn on the neck using a push pull (which would be the volume, in my case) with the tbx tone and also thinkin of putting a phase in, phase out, 2-way switch in there as well for the neck ....................... between the pots sumgai, do you think that a circut like i mentioned would work and give me some pretty good tones ? let me know what you think. thanks, 96telesrule p.s the pickups i have are the dimarzio twang king in the neck and bridge but i still have the stock strat in the middle and does anyone have any idea bout what kind of wood this is lol
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Post by sumgai on Sept 4, 2007 4:04:24 GMT -5
96 (tears), Well, you'll get seven possible tones out of the neck-on switch.... they're straightforward, so I won't enumerate them here. What you won't get are the series and series/parallel combinations, and the reverse-phase combinations. The jury is out as to how many that totals up to, but it's more than seven, I can assure you of that. What you intend with that extra switch is what I do on my Strat, except that I've got a 4PDT (S1), so I've got ten combo's from which to choose. But that neck-bridge is all important, in my book. ;D FWIW, I have no personal experience with aftermarket pups of any kind, 'ceptin' Kinmans. I'm not the one to say whether your choice of DiMarizio's are good or otherwise..... sorry. And if I had to pick just one wood type, I'd say "Basswood". Some folks like it, some don't.... it's all personal preference. HTH sumgai
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Post by ChrisK on Sept 4, 2007 18:01:19 GMT -5
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Post by 96telesrule on Sept 4, 2007 22:37:25 GMT -5
chris, this guitar is made in japan, taking a look at the neck pocket it says: tl-90dlx but i know it is either a late 95' or a 96' cause the fender 50th anniversary sticker on the back of the headstock and the serial # is U023692 it originaly came with the tele bridge and two strat pups but i changed that quick ;D and its more clear now in that pic that it is a three piece body lol thanks a bunch 96telesrule ps yea it was black in color but had many finish flaws so i sanded it down and lacquer'd it i think it turned out rather nicely .... how bout you
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Post by ChrisK on Sept 5, 2007 17:39:32 GMT -5
I think that it turned out really well. It's definitely 3 piece (the photo of the back helped a lot) and it looks like alder. The easiest way to count the pieces is to look along the side/edge. The grain mismatch will be obvious. This procedure only works on transparent finishes unless you gots some really strong eyes. ;D
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Post by 96telesrule on Sept 7, 2007 23:43:06 GMT -5
What you won't get are the series and series/parallel combinations, and the reverse-phase combinations. The jury is out as to how many that totals up to, but it's more than seven, I can assure you of that. sumgai, do you have any designs as to what you mentioned there, and could they be done without stuffing a lot more into already limited space. ;D if you have any thats not to far out there I might try it thanks 96telesrule
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Post by sumgai on Sept 8, 2007 13:21:46 GMT -5
sixer, Let me see if I've got this right....... From your previous postings, you'd like to have a Neck on, and a neck-phase switch, is that correct? I think that's the "minimalist" description of what you want. But your latest question implies that you are now interested in series and ser/par combinations too, so long as any switches will fit within your limited space - is that also correct? sumgai
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Post by 96telesrule on Sept 8, 2007 22:14:32 GMT -5
sumgai, the thing is that to me wiring a neck on and a phase switch is simple in my head but the wiring for the series and ser/par is still kind of foggy lol as you can tell i havn't really been at it that long ..... right now im still working on the finish of the guitar but trying to look ahead at what options i have in the wiring.............. but i still haven't decided, it takes me a while to decide on anything.
i usually stand at a snack machine for at 5-10 minutes lol
the neck on switch and the neck phase switch seems like a ok idea to me, but what you wrote sounds more intriging than what i thought up
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