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Post by kingkobra on Dec 23, 2007 12:41:44 GMT -5
hey. i was looking for a wiring diagram for my guitar i don't know to much about wiring. well let me tell you what i have. i have emg 81 and 85. i actually just routed it out for a neck pickup since it was only a single hum in the bridge. and i wanted more versatility. so right now i have a 1 vol 1 tone emg 81 and the emg pa-2 booster switch. what i would like to do is add the emg 85 in the neck and use a mini toggle on-off-on switch for the pickup selector so i could kind of have a kill switch too. and i also have the emg pi-2 which is a phaser for the emg pickups. and i really don't want a tone knob since i don't want to drill another hole in my guitar so is it possible to wire all those things just with a volume knob? wow. i think i confused my self. let me break it down again. i would like 81,85 1 vol, pa-2 booster, and pi-2 phaser also a on-off-on mini toggle for pickup selector. i have been looking for this diagram for along time. if you have any suggestions on what else i could do that would be great. i would really appreciate a diagram for this. thanks so much in advance.
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Post by sumgai on Dec 24, 2007 23:46:35 GMT -5
king, Hi, and welcome to the NutzHouse! ;D We have an EMG expert on board, but he hasn't been around for a few days........... Paging Dr. dunklefalk, paging Dr. dunklefalk, please report to the Newbie section for triage! Hang tight, or perhaps another member here with more experience with those components than I have will come along soon. HTH sumgai
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Post by kingkobra on Dec 25, 2007 14:49:22 GMT -5
thank you im happy to be here. it seems like there are alot of intelegent people who are willilng to help me out with my wiring perdicament. thanks again for the welcome
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Post by kingkobra on Dec 26, 2007 21:12:55 GMT -5
well now that im looking everything over.
my real problem is knowing how to wire the mini toggle switch for my pickup selector. the on/off/on switch.
So does anybody know if it is possible to wire it for the pickup selector?
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Post by sumgai on Dec 26, 2007 21:56:03 GMT -5
kobra, Hmmmm, looking at your first post, you say you intend to use a on-off-on mini-toggle for selecting the pickups, right? Seems kinda wierd to me, but OK, I'll bite...... I know that EMG does things much differently than the rest of the world, so perhaps that is the correct switch to use, regardless of my doubts. But you also said you've been staring at a diagram (for a long time). Please share with us the link to that diagram, so we can all be on the same page when giving you suggestions. sumgai
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Post by kingkobra on Dec 27, 2007 20:19:40 GMT -5
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Post by Sebster5696 on Dec 27, 2007 22:38:00 GMT -5
The diagram from EMG states that it uses a Gibson toggle switch, Gibson toggle switches are single pole On-On-On switches. Otherwise I don't really know how the rest of the diagram functions.
Seb
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Post by JohnH on Dec 27, 2007 22:51:11 GMT -5
It does seem strange to use an on/off/on switch as a pickup selector, which is a switch that has both poles disconected at the centre position. The EMG diagrams show either a Gibson toggle switch, or a Tele 3-way switch. If you want to use something like a mini toggle, the one that you'd need is a DPDT on/on/on switch. This has 6 lugs and if you join the two top, the two centre and the two lower lugs, then it can replicate the Gibson switch to give neck, both, bridge selections. www.guitarelectronics.com/product/SWM23/Mini_SwitchDouble_Pole_ONONON.htmlIs that what you are looking to do? John
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Post by sumgai on Dec 28, 2007 2:13:18 GMT -5
BTW....... Kobra, I see where EMG says that you don't need to ground the strings because their pups are allegedly built perfectly - they don't need no steenkin' ground! Bull puckey! We ground the strings to reduce all of the noise encountered by every part of the guitar's internal circuitry, not just the pickup(s). Safety aside, noise is the number-one deal killer for any guitarist. Safety included.... don't touch the bleepin' microphone! That's like a Duh!, isn't it? ~!~!~!~!~!~ On your choice of switches....... Your first link, the switch will work if wired as I showed to John, immediately above. But it's expensive!! You can do better, by at least half. Unless you already have one in your junk box. The second switch won't do the job, unless you're gonna use two of them, one per pup - they're simple on/off switches, that's all. To keep things simple, look for a DP3T, on/on/on. This may also be called a DPDT on/on/on, it's the same thing, only incorrectly named...... probably by marketing mavens who couldn't spell electon if one hit them in the butt! They're all over the web, don't just grab the first one you see. But if you've already got an on/off/on, just wire it like so....... < EDIT:> The method described was lacking in a certain aspect, namely, it didn't work as desired. Or to be more precise, it worked only too well, it acted like a kill switch for the whole guitar (under certain circumstances). Method deleted, and claims taken back. < /edit> HTH sumgai
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Post by kingkobra on Dec 29, 2007 18:49:07 GMT -5
yeah thanks alot.
so i already have the on/off/on mini toggle. so kind of what i took from all of that is that i just connect the 6 lugs to the together?
kind of confused about how to wire this.
but yeah thats what i want to do.
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Post by JohnH on Dec 29, 2007 20:17:52 GMT -5
Well, despite everything above, I still don't see a good way to wire it with an on/off/on switch. I'll watch with interest.
John
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Post by sumgai on Dec 30, 2007 2:33:16 GMT -5
John, Kobra, I'm not on my main 'puter at the moment, the one with AutoCAD, so I'm just letting you know I'm not ignoring you. Be patient, a day or two more at the most, and life should return to normal 'round these parts. I'll make and post a diagram then. < EDIT:> I've edited my post above, the claim is no longer being made, and the diagram won't be forthcoming. Sorry 'bout that! < /edit> HTH sumgai
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Post by kingkobra on Jan 5, 2008 14:13:14 GMT -5
well guys thanks for all the help.
well if anyone has any info on this or even how to wire this switch in a different application. that would be much appreciated.
thanks.
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Post by sumgai on Jan 5, 2008 14:33:52 GMT -5
kobra, Well, a different application might be pretty far-ranging.... In terms of controlling a pickup, this particular switch configuration is pretty limited - what it can do can also be done by other switches, and probably with a larger number of options. All of which means, whatever effect it can do, it's gonna take up space on your pickguard that would likely be better used for a switch that does more for your switching arrangement. But that's just an opinion, you understand. Long story short, you're still better off by going out and getting the proper switch, an DP3T (on/on/on). Yeah, it's a bit of a let-down to realize that what you've already got isn't gonna work, and that means that you've gotta spend a bit o' cash, but when the work's all done, the results will be well worth it! And that's not an opinion, that's a guarantee! ;D HTH sumgai
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