3 way switch

[kuzi16]

i have a harmony guitar. I'm not sure on the model number. thats not the point here. this guitar has slide switches for the pickups. each of the two pickups can be on or off independent of the other.

the reason (i think) that this style switch is used is because the body is thin. (its a cheap plywood) a standard Gibson 3 way wont fit in the body.

Needless to say the pickups are old metal cased p-90 style and are just about dead. i have a set of newer pickups that i took out of a Yamaha rgx220 sitting around. these are humbuckers.
I am now in need of a 3 way switch.
to stick with the slide i am going with this: Stew-Mac Slide Switches

i will use the other slide (1233 on/on) to make a coil split for each of the pickups.

my only question is (took me long enough): that switch has 4 lugs for each pole. the standard Gibson is a 3 lug switch. how would i wire this if i wanted Neck/neck & bridge/bridge? the coil split i have figured out.

I'm also open to other options if they exist.




(Edited by sumgai to make the link work.)

[ChrisK]

This slide switch has four terminals per side. "Pole" is a somewhat misleading description.

On each side there is an internal traveling contact.

Thus:

Side 1
A B C D
E F G H
Side 2

Left position
A_B C D
E_F G H

Middle position
A B_C D
E F_G H

Position right
A B C_D
E F G_H

A clever sort might wire the output to "A, F, C, and H". They might also wire the bridge pickup to "b" and the neck pickup to "n".

A b C D
E F n H

[kuzi16]

thats kinda how i thought it worked. I just weanted to be sure

thank you!

i see this being a problem setup. I dont know the color codes for the pups but i know the theory on how to get what wire is what.
... just never done it before.

now im just waiting on parts.
thanks again!

[kuzi16]

ok i feel like such a newb. well... electronics never was my strong point...



i am using, basicly, this setup on the above mentioned harmony guitar: www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_2v_2t_3w_2pp

the difference is that the switch i want to use is the one described above. (i want to retain as much of the original look/style of the guitar as i can) for the life of me i cant figure out how to get it to work like a gibson 3 way style switch where the left is neck the middle is both and the right is bridge.

i think i need a fresh set of eyes to point out what is probably an easy fix that im just over looking
any help would be great!

[JohnH]

Take a look at Chris' last two lines. The clue is in the answer......!

John

[ChrisK]

O b O X
X O n O=Output

[kuzi16]

ok ... so i see how the signal flows up to the point where i have 4 outputs.




im kinda missing it there, thats what confusing to me. are 4 outputs all hooked up to the one spot on the jack? wouldnt that cause some sort of a loop ? and what about the ground on the gibson style 3 way, do i not need one for this?

im sorry for having to to have everythign spelled out for me.
something just isnt clicking here with me.

[kuzi16]

ok ;D i got it now.


took me long enough. plain as the nose on my face. ;D



+1 for ChrisK for makin me think!!
... helps ya learn ya know!

[ChrisK]

Yeah, it doesn't include the grounding connections or the pots.

It's just "a bit of plumbing" upstream along the way from the pickups to the master volume and tone.

If you have volumes and/or tones for each, it's just "a bit of plumbing" downstream from them.

Think?

Dang!

(It's habit forming.)