|
|
Post by hammeroff on May 17, 2007 0:48:55 GMT -5
OK, pretend you've only known of one beverage your entire life: Coca-cola. Now, pretend you've just tasted lemonade. Whoa~~Thats AWESOME! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Right, now...do you ever remember hearing a musician and being like, "Holy freaking crap!! This is great." --------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, for like the past 13 years I've been listening to: Classic rock (everything "popular" from the 60s and 70s.") then... I traded my copy of AC/DC "Live" for a copy of a record with four weird symbols on it, then... Led Zeppelin, they hit me like a frieght train, infact the first time I could play Stairway and the solo I rewinded that song to 5:35 enough times to make my mother come down stairs and pull the fuse! then... A co-worker gave me a copy of "The Extremist." My life changed. I bought every Joe Satriani record. I missed a car payment to do so! then... I was jammin at this dudes house, we take a smoke break and he throws on his "favorite" song, Jimi Hendrix "Hear my train a comin, (electric)" At this time I was familiar with the 3 Hendrix songs that get air-play still; needless to say, my life changed again! I bought every album etc, then... I remember this moment very well, I was talkin to my guitar teacher about how Hendrix this, Hendrix that... He's like, "Listen to this, it's a Hendrix cover." I'm like, "pfft, whatever." Then my life changed again, as I heard the 6 minute, 48 second version of "Little Wing." Yeah, I went out, bought every Stevie Ray Vaughan record. then.... I listened to mostly Stevie Ray Vaughan (like 4 SRV songs to every 1 other song) for about 3 years. then... 2 days ago.... I'm boiling my strings and lookin back at some posts on GN2, and I read the post by ranchtooth on the thread "Supergroup" in the coffee shop. I'm like ok, who's Buckethead...I look him up on youtube and wikipedia. And yeah, my life changed. Like whoa~ Exactly like only knowing what Coke tastes like, now I know what lemonade tastes like. --=================!!----I was just kinda wongering 2 things 1)Does anybody have anything to add regarding Buckethead, guitar-wise, influence-wise or whatever. 2)Does anybody have a musician that had this Coke->Lemonade effect on them? --Matt Edit: P.S. I've bought 2 Buckethead records now, and they got about 6 hours of listening tonight, anyway Ranchtooth, you are indeed correct. Hearing Buckethead and SRV together would probably be about 19 light-years beyond orgasm.
Edit Edit:For those of us that prefer pictures with captions:  Edit^3: I think I should really make it clear: I don't mean to come across as a cat that follows the surf of the newest wave, I just...I dunno really dig different stuff. I'm not gunna try and say Buckethead is better than x, or whatever, I just can't deny that he's unlike anything I've ever heard. |
|
|
|
Post by spitfire23bc on May 17, 2007 2:51:54 GMT -5
I know exactly what you mean!
The first band to do that to me was Dire Straits - I had been pretty much exclusively to metal until then. I bought On Every Street on a whim and listened to it over and over and over again, until I went back and bought more!! Mark Knopfler is now my biggest musical influence.
More recently, I bought Kind of Blue, by Miles Davis, and man can he play well! I'd dipped in and out of jazz before (and my dad is a huge fan), but this just opened up doors to new, magical, unexplored musical vistas...
And even more recently, a friend recommended Dave Matthews Band to me, so I bought their album Busted Stuff. If you don't own this album, go out and buy it; no excuses!!
I haven't listened to any Buckethead, but I will now...
|
|
|
|
Post by hammeroff on May 17, 2007 5:34:48 GMT -5
Hey man, +1 for bein cool!
Just...be "open" to new stuff when you listen to Buckethead ;D
|
|
|
|
Post by sumgai on May 17, 2007 15:56:19 GMT -5
--Matt, Seeing as how you like graphical demonstrations, let me clue you in:  Here's a quarter, call me when your head gets screwed back on right, after listening to these guys. ;D sumgai |
|
|
|
Post by Ripper on May 17, 2007 16:25:09 GMT -5
Oh man I hear ya!
I remember hearing Eddie Van Halen for the first time in the late 70's and thinking theres NO way a human can play that fast!...I was wrong. Then it was Randy Rhoads. Fast, clever and classical scales in rock music?? I played Blizzard of Oz, and Diary of a Madman over and over.
I did enjoy Satriani, Vai and such, but found them too perfect and alas my ears grew tired of them. Then, when I thought id heard it all, I discovered Stevie Ray Vaughan. To me, he is the greatest blues guitarist who ever lived. As Eric Clapton said " He was never lost" To watch SRV play, his eyes closed and his mind off in the cosmos, it inspires me to just play. Dont worry about how good you are. Just enjoy yourself and channel your mind to the guitar. Its cheesy, but try and become one with the instrument. To me SRV is one of the few who could actually do it, and still remain a true gentleman without becoming full of himself ( Malmsteen & few others) * wink *
As far as Buckethead goes...I have heard him and he is a fantastic player, no question. I hear he wears the bucket because he wants people to concentrate on his skills, not his looks. He must be butt ugly!... I have seen a picture of him without the bucket. He looks like a normal guy to me. I just think he has alot of bad hair days!....been there, done that!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by ChrisK on May 17, 2007 18:46:43 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by ranchtooth on May 21, 2007 17:38:55 GMT -5
Woo Buckethead...
I just have to add if you ever get a chance to see his live shows, don't miss it!
Hands down one of the most entertaining concerts I've ever seen, and he never speaks a word. At one point he was playing the theme song from Halloween one handed while spinning nunchuks with the other hand.... A bunch of breakdancers in zombie makeup came from backstage and started rocking out to the jams. Very surreal, awesome stuff.
|
|
mattme
Rookie Solder Flinger
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
|
Post by mattme on Jun 7, 2007 7:48:22 GMT -5
The 6 minutes odd of instrumental little wing isn't by Jimi??? What? Thats the worst news I've ever heard.
There are lots of bands that have had that kind of effect of me, I think most bands I've got albums of have done that in one way or another. I always remember going to see GlassJaw about 4 or 5 years ago (I'm not really a fan just went with a few mates) and when we got there the support band were playing and I didn't move. I couldn't move I just stood and listened and was amazed. It was a band I'd never heard of before called 'Dredg'. I went home that night and downloaded a few tracks and bought both albums. I've been a 'fan' ever since. Their 'El Cielo' album is my favourite album for lots of reasons but that to me (even now) is an almost perfect album. It doesn't have any screaming guitar solos or brutal guitar riffs but the band seem to interact musically more than anyone else I know. Listening to it now I think the drums have a lot to do with it, they're used like another instrument in writing songs, adding another hook, rather than just adding percussion. That all sounds a bit sad now I've written it down but I always remember it as it's the only time I've been won over by a band I've never heard of after seeing them at a gig.
Perhaps that's just me.
More along the lines of previous posts I remember a while back I was listening to quite a lot of metal when I heard Mogwai at a friends house. That changed my whole perception of music and what a band can do. I know most of their stuff's fairly plain on the surface but it was the fact I'd never heard a band who could put across emotion in tracks without vocals. And even release music without a vocalist. Amazing stuff. Amazing band - one of the best live bands I've seen.
|
|
|
|
Post by vonFrenchie on Jun 19, 2007 22:21:47 GMT -5
Hey... dont diss Old Milwaukee. My uncle works there.
Regarding Buckethead. He's a great guitarist but beyond his own work (this is the same for Satriani, Vai, Malmsteen) hes not that great. He can solo like mad but if you throw him in a band and make him play with another guitarist he doesnt do that great. He DID get KICKED OUT of Guns n Roses for not being able to with well with the group, also because they were creeped out by him.
If you want an amazing focusing fully on the music and its a one time deal... listen to Buckethead... or the Residents because they're weird and you wont want to listen to them again. Trust me, even I get creeped out by them.
But if you want something thats a little more tolerable when its on repeat... I tend to look elsewhere.
Thats all IMHO
Personally I think the band The Number Twelve Looks Like You is kind of like Buckethead. They are both kinda out there and a tad disturbing but the Number Twelve is pretty consistent in their listenability (if thats a word). I cant ever make it all the way through a Buckethead album (yes I have a some, like Bucketheadland and Enter the Chicken)
Oh and my one beverage would be an Arnold Palmer (half lemonade half tea) I would NEVER want to switch from that.
|
|
|
|
Post by jkemmery on Jun 28, 2007 14:19:08 GMT -5
I had my lemonade experiences with, Hendrix, Cream, The Ramones, The Red Hot Chili Peppers and Nirvana ....
But when it comes to Buckethead, I just don't get it ....
That says a LOT! (Then again, not too many get along well with Axl, from what I understand.)
Dude, I can never make it through a Buckethead song!
His musical sensibilities and mine are just too out of vibe, I guess.
You should all check out a guy named Oz Noy ... plays kind of a funky jazzy, bluesy kind of fusion. I think if Stevie Ray were an Israeli raised in New York he would have pretty much sounded like Oz Noy ... seriously. And if you have a 'lemonade' experience, you won't have to miss a payment ... he's only got like 2 albums out, but he's pretty freakin' awesome, and not like, all wierd and dischordant like Buckethead. I would bet he'll be regarded as one of, if not the best guitarist of his generation.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ripper on Jun 30, 2007 10:20:12 GMT -5
agreed, he is quite a flashy player. He must have practised his butt off....but hes a little out there for me. I wish I had some of his licks though.
His fingers must be greasy dont you think?
|
|
|
|
Post by jkemmery on Jun 30, 2007 22:15:26 GMT -5
deepblue, was that Buckethead, or Oz Noy?
I'm sure Buckethead's fingers are greasy, he must go through a TON of KFC!
|
|
|
|
Post by spitfire23bc on Jul 6, 2007 15:30:54 GMT -5
Regarding Buckethead. He's a great guitarist but beyond his own work (this is the same for Satriani, Vai, Malmsteen) hes not that great. He can solo like mad but if you throw him in a band and make him play with another guitarist he doesnt do that great. He DID get KICKED OUT of Guns n Roses for not being able to with well with the group, also because they were creeped out by him. ... But if you want something thats a little more tolerable when its on repeat... I tend to look elsewhere. Ditto I'm afraid, Hammeroff. I can appreciate that he's a good guitarist, but can't actually appreciate any of the music he makes. Also, JKemmery, I just had a look at Oz Noy's Myspace and the few bars I heard (on this prehistoric dialup connection) have me convinced! At the risk of being shouted down as a shameless plugger, check out a band named Lahanya (I'm not part of them; I know both the drummer and manager pretty well) - they're a kind of funk-rock band, based in London - very very good (and I'm not saying that because they're mates!) |
|
|
|
Post by strathappy on Jul 22, 2007 21:58:40 GMT -5
Buckethead is interesting, I'm getting into him but I don't dig some of his live, random compu-babble guitar solos, while they sound cool and unique, in many cases it's lacking a lot of musicality which sounds bad to my ears.
|
|
|
|
Post by crazymanandy on Nov 16, 2007 8:53:29 GMT -5
After seeing this thread, I looked at his stuff on youtube. It's interesting, because I don't normally like things in this vein, or style, of music. But there are a few songs that I really enjoy such as Padmasana, Soothsayer, and Nottingham Lace. I like when he does melodic stuff. One thing I don't like is shredding, really speedy stuff. It's like nails on the chalkboard for me. He actually uses a lot of melodic riffs, only breaking out the extreme speed occasionally. He uses a lot of riffs and "hooks" that make this kind of music much more palatable than I would normally find it. And he has quite a bit of rock and blues influence, which is nice. I like his sense of melody.
For sure, this isn't the kind of music I can listen to all the time. Maybe 30 minutes a day at most. I think it would be great to watch live. But, as has been said, not something I could just hit repeat on.
CMA
|
|
|
|
Post by kuzi16 on Nov 17, 2007 0:18:12 GMT -5
i kinda jumped on this thread a bit late...
i do remember the first time i heard Led Zeppelin. It was the song "black dog"
that song changed my life.
i remember the first time i heard Steve Vai. the song was "the audiance is listening"
that song changed how i viewd rock.
In a way my musical "coming of age," though, was during grunge. though many of the grunge heros play with (quite) a bit of slop, i did take one good thing out of the movement that i still carry on to this day: a well written song can be simple, as long as it sounds good
I can remember the first time i heard Parl Jam's Black or STP's Creep, Or Nirvana's In Bloom. the list could go on and on. these bands still influence me more than all the "Gods" of classic rock and/or metal.
grunge molded how i think about music. my musical philosophy is this: you can sweep pick, finger tap, know a secret that will let you to play chords that require you to have six fingers, or write the most complex songs ever; but it dont mean S*** if it doesnt flow and make you feel good.
im gunna offend people with this...
because of the above stated philosophy, i have a hard time getting into Rush. dont get me wrong, they have more talent in each of their pinky fingers than most do in their entire body, but i cant latch onto and get into their music. Rush, with all their talent, did not change my world as much as the Toadies did with their two albums that went almost nowhere.
...wow i got off topic fast. ill shut up now
|
|
|
|
Post by crazymanandy on Nov 17, 2007 6:37:16 GMT -5
I don't think you'll offend anyone. It's kind of funny, I had a similar experience. I never really "got in to music", as you might say, until I heard Pearl Jam's No Code album. Then I got the rest of their albums and listened to them constantly for about a year or two. Eventually I spread out to the rest of the grunge greats, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, etc. And though I listen to many different things now, I always feel at home when I listen to those guys, and their influence on me, musically, is tremendous. And I know grunge gets slapped around for being sloppy at times, but many of those musicians were quite competent players.
I applaud Buckethead for putting his tremendous skills to good use, even though I'm not exactly in to that style of music.
CMA
|
|
|
|
Post by jkemmery on Nov 19, 2007 23:29:05 GMT -5
... I know grunge gets slapped around for being sloppy at times, but many of those musicians were quite competent players. Indeed. For the uninitiated, check out Mike McCready's (of Pearl Jam) work on "Yellow Ledbetter", which was originally released as a B-Side on the "Jeremy" single, charted briefly in 1992 and showed up on later CDs. When the current crusty old crop of music critics still pining away for thier romanticized ideal of "the 60's" gives it up and retires, I'm sure grunge will have it's due acclaim. As far as it being sloppy, much of that was actually on purpose. |
|
