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Post by michaelcbell on Mar 21, 2007 18:51:06 GMT -5
Since I recently spec'd a HSH guitar, I started playing with a tone monster version of that pickup arrangement. It came out huge. The basic concept is a bus-based guitar so that each pickup (each coil in the humbuckers) can be individually assigned to one of four busses (2 are serial, 2 are parallel), then those busses can be combined in serial or parallel, and the final mix (of the parallel combined or serially combined busses) can be in serial or parallel as well. Take a look and see what you think. Ultimate Tone Monster Guitar (HSH)By: Michael Bell My goal with this design was to make a guitar that had as many different tones as possible. That is all. Functionality, accessibility, aesthetics, etc. were only taken into account if they did not interfere with the total tonal flexibility of this guitar. This design was also not intended to be an easy modification. If anyone ever attempts this mod, there will be significant issues with body routing, and a larger pick guard will need to be installed. The end result, while somewhat ungainly and unattractive, is a tonal behemoth. With 31,850,496 different switching combinations for a total of approximately 11867 different pickup combinations (even if you exclude phasing, there are still 952 possibilities), this guitar will give you nearly any possible combination of 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 pickups in any combination of parallel, serial, and phasing, even compound combinations like ((2s5)p1)s(3p4) shown below: Overall Layout (as on a strat body):note: The white shapes are the controls that protrude from the guitar body. The black shapes are the underlying electronics. The jack would need to be side mounted. Pickup Assignment Wiring: Note: both parallel busses have individual power and individual ground for each bus as noted in the example for bus 4 Tone Selector Wiring: Bus Selectors Wiring:
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Post by sumgai on Mar 21, 2007 20:08:42 GMT -5
michael,
Hi, and welcome to the GuitarNutz2 forums!
Glad to see that we got the linking thing worked out, nice job. (I've deleted both of the succeeding posts about that question.)
Overall, very clean. I'd only suggest that you perhaps include a truth table, where you show what the resultant tone will be for each of the possible switch positions. Obviously, that can add up to a lot of combo's, but you show your circuit in bits and pieces..... a truth table would help others to see at a glance what the final assembled circuit will be capable of.
sumgai
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Post by michaelcbell on Mar 22, 2007 20:55:27 GMT -5
As suggested, I'm including a truth table for at least some of the tones available on this guitar. I discovered a few interesting things about this design as I did this. Specifically, I'm more sure of the actual number of pickup combinations, and I had to concede that not ALL pickup combinations are possible. I'm missing 120 unphased possibilities (only two layouts elude me... and all the permutations of those layouts), which makes me a bit sad, but at only 952 combinations, I think I'll be ok. The truth table follows:
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Post by sumgai on Mar 23, 2007 1:40:01 GMT -5
michael, Holy Kee-ripes! 105 combos and counting, and excluding OoP yet!! Alright, who's gonna step up to the plate and double-check michael's work? Seeing as how this is gonna be a headache, I've gotta free bottle of Canadian 222's for the lucky sod who makes the grade! ;D I may not be able to define complexity, but this'll do for an example of such - oy vay! Nice job. sumgai
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Post by JohnH on Mar 23, 2007 6:29:33 GMT -5
Michael - you are clearly a crazy man. You'll fit in well around here. Welcome home. I am looking forward to hearing all the sound clips.
John
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Post by michaelcbell on Mar 23, 2007 10:49:24 GMT -5
well, thank you very much! I feel sufficiently welcomed. ;D I'll be sure to make some recordings... if I ever actually get to build it. I did this design for more of an intellectual excercise, but hey... Maybe when I buy my new guitar (like next year), I'll take my poor little Korean Squier Strat and do some major surgery. Who knows?... Of course, I don't have to be the first to try this mod...
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Post by benjy304 on Mar 25, 2007 21:46:13 GMT -5
I occasionally come up with pickup wiring schemes for excercising my intellect, but this is more like a marathon or a dodecatathlon rather than an excercise.
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Post by col on Apr 21, 2012 1:02:58 GMT -5
Hi,
Do the missing images from this thread exist elsewhere?
Col.
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Post by sumgai on Apr 21, 2012 4:21:48 GMT -5
Do the missing images from this thread exist elsewhere? Not of you're gonna sharpshoot 'em like you did ChrisK's work.... ;D ;D No, seriously, I don't have 'em. I back up the board about twice a year, it takes most of a day (night) to get all the images and such. Sadly though, I started doing that after MCB's departure from this locale, and apparently from the web. His personal site is completely gone, and The Wayback Machine doesn't have any record of it, either. Sorry! sumgai
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Post by col on Apr 21, 2012 13:14:06 GMT -5
Hi Sumgai,
Thanks for the reply. That's a shame, it seemed like it might have been interesting.
Is Michael's e-mail address still valid? Not that I propose contacting him.
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Post by sumgai on Apr 21, 2012 17:49:13 GMT -5
Is Michael's e-mail address still valid? Not that I propose contacting him. Go ahead. After all, what's he gonna do, ignore you?! I poked into various corners around the web, and found him on www.spoke.com, which was supposedly last updated back in June of 2011. Can't say for sure if he's still active or what, in the Maryland area or wherever, but nobody's gonna stop you from tryin' to locate him. He was a prolific and well respected poster here, during his time. Many of us wish he'd return, at least once in awhile, if not on a daily basis. If you do catch up to him, please give him a shout out from us Nutz! ;D sumgai
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