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Post by luwer on May 12, 2008 0:53:53 GMT -5
ive been trying to rewire my squire bass so the each pickup has an independant volume knob. i was hoping they would be out of phase as well. can anyone help me out with suggestions to wiring this setup? i have two pots and 2 stock pickups.
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Post by newey on May 12, 2008 5:41:41 GMT -5
Luwer-
Hello and welcome aboard!
A couple of things first. One, since your question concerns wiring, it belongs more properly in the Electronics and Wiring aisle. Take no offense when the powers that be move it up there.
Second, when you say you want the 2 pickups out of phase, do you really want them out of phase all the time, or are you contemplating a switch to allow that choice? And do you currently have a switch to choose one or the other of the pickups?
Rewiring to give you two volume controls is fairly straightforward, a phase switch is a little more complex but not unduly so. I can't imagine that you would want them out of phase constantly, however.
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Post by luwer on May 12, 2008 11:00:53 GMT -5
sorry about the missplacement of my post.
- i have a little bit more specifics of my current setup, i have a squire p bass and right now my plan is to copy the wiring for a jazz bass and leave out the tone knob.
the out phase switch sounds pretty sweet, i was talking to some friends and they said being out of phase would get annoying if i couldnt control it.
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Post by ChrisK on May 12, 2008 15:53:15 GMT -5
By out of phase, do you mean the "out of phase" Strat-like sound of two parallel pickups that are RWRP with each other such as the bridge and a RWRP middle (where the "ground" leads from both pickups are still connected to ground),
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do you mean two pickups that are electrically out of phase with each other (where the "ground" lead from one pickup is now its hot lead, and its former hot lead is now its ground lead)?
Either way, you might also want to consider series as well as parallel connections.
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Post by pete12345 on May 12, 2008 15:57:50 GMT -5
You mentioned you have a P bass and two pickups, by this do you mean the staggarred pickup you get, where one half is for E and A, and the other for D and G? In this case I think out-of-phase could be quite interesting, as both halves are producing very different frequencies.
Pete
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Post by ChrisK on May 12, 2008 16:22:07 GMT -5
pete,
Bear in mind that the P-Bass style of split pickup is already in an out of phase configuration; both halves are RWRP and in series with each other. The signals are in phase, but the two halves together are hum canceling.
Electrical out of phase may only be meaningful for coils sensing the same string. I'm not sure what it would mean for two separate coils sensing two separate strings.
It might be interesting to play the same note on both (the A and D string) to see/hear.
If one's ears bleed or head explodes, they can sue pete.
Anyway, once we resolve the exact meaning of "out of phase" that you have in mind, the rest is pretty simple to do.
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Post by luwer on May 12, 2008 23:18:51 GMT -5
im not really sure what kind of "out of phase i want" my original plan was to just control the volume of each staggered pickup but i'm open to suggestions if anyone can think of anything that would sound sweet. thx
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Post by cynical1 on May 13, 2008 1:54:26 GMT -5
luwer -
What kind of tone are you looking for? What style of music do you play?
What were you planning on using the "as yet undefined OOP" tone for?
Just trying to narrow down what you're looking for before we build you a pellet gun to hunt rhino...
Happy Trails
Cynical1
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Post by pete12345 on May 13, 2008 9:09:55 GMT -5
I think the problem with 2 volume knobs would be that each would adjust the total volume of 2 strings. One would be a volume for E and A, the other for D and G. You might find an advantage to this, but in effect you only have a single pickup, so I'm not sure 2 volumes would be that useful. Out-of-phase between the halves might be worth a go though.
Pete
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Post by ashcatlt on May 13, 2008 12:56:32 GMT -5
Are we, in fact, talking about a volume control for each half of one single staggered humbucker?
In that case, assuming you leave the thing in the typical series config, you'll end up with 2 master volumes. This would theoretically give you finer control of the overall output volume, but in practice it won't be very useful, and it certainly won't do what you want.
Might be interesting if you were to bypass the low string side* with a capacitor, as per the Broadbucker, et al. Then you could have nice deep thumpiness from your low strings and a thinner, tinnier sound from the higher strings...
*I think that's where you'd want it, but I'm sure somebody'll come along and correct me.
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