Buzz from Tone pots American Stratocaster

[momojinrobot]

I'm sure it does, maybe insubstantially, but it does... by absorption, vibration feedback... it's not the same having a solidbody of copper or one of wood.

As for "What is this ... Welcome Back, Kotter?", that was improper. You are so mean. -25 (hour by hour, one by one)

[D2o]

Aug 26, 2008 14:59:08 GMT -5 @momojinrobot said:

I'm sure it does, maybe insubstantially, but it does... by absorption, vibration feedback... it's not the same having a solidbody of copper or one of wood.

As for "What is this ... Welcome Back, Kotter?", that was improper. You are so mean. -25 (hour by hour, one by one)

Hi All,

I can only assume momo has a twisted sense of humour.

Therefore, please DO NOT smite momo in retaliation for any perceived attack on me.

Thanks,

DD

[momojinrobot]

Hi all,

momo is so twisted that he'll add -10 to DD842 ver 2.0 for every smite received,

you choose

that's only my twisted humor, again

are those wires in my strat silver plated?

I bought kapton teflon silver plated OF copper wires to replace them, should I keep the old?

[ChrisK]

SB Electronics is and was the only manufacturer of Orange Drop

Is, not was.


www.sbelectronics.com/corporate/new_about_us.html

"SBE Inc., dba SB Electronics, designs and manufactures the most reliable Film Capacitor Products for today’s demanding applications. We have developed unique technology (patent pending) in pulse design and continue to introduce new technologies to support the Homeland Security, Electric Utility, Energy Efficient Lighting, Medical and Automotive/e-drive markets. Formerly a Sprague Electric company......

While new technology is entering, we have not reduced our support of traditional products. We manufacture the well known Orange Drop® and 192P Pacer® Film Capacitor lines, both of which have reliably served the industry since 1959!"


The history of SBE. Note that this history emphasizes the manufacturing (sub-contracting or not) side of capacitors rather than the design and marketing (the "generators and owners" of component specifications and brands).

www.sbelectronics.com/corporate/new_history.html

1992 SB Electronics purchases the 192P Pacer product line from Sprague Electric and returns the manufacturing to Barre, Vermont where it was originally designed.

1986 SB Electronics is formed by purchasing the Orange Drop® product line from Sprague Electric and the manufacturing facilities in Barre, Vermont.

1969 Sprague Electric purchases the capacitor operations from Rock of Ages Corp. and assumes direct ownership. The plant is referred to as the Sprague-Barre operation.

1959 The radial-lead Orange Drop® film capacitor product lines are introduced, as well as the Type 192P Pacer® axial-lead, polyester film line.

1953 Employment reaches 940 at the Barre plant as new products are introduced. Sprague Barre is one of the larger employers in the state of Vermont.

1946 The Rock of Ages Capacitor Division moves to its newly renovated location at 131 South Main Street. They continue to support Sprague as the radio industry booms.

1945 Sprague Electric Co. enters into a sub-contracting agreement with the Rock of Ages Corp., one of the world’s largest granite producers located in Barre, Vermont, to manufacture capacitors for them. Their work is to support the war efforts. [This would be for mica capacitors.]

1926 Robert C. Sprague invents a paper dielectric capacitor at his home in Quincy, Massachusetts and the Sprague Electric Company is formed.


Sprague/Vishay (well, Vishay/Sprague) still has a major distribution role for SBE capacitor products. This list comprises the major distribution companies of the, uh, planet.

www.sbelectronics.com/sbelectronics_division/new_sprague_distributors.html

From this page, additional info is further gleaned:

"Brief History
SB Electronics is a former Sprague Electric manufacturing plant. In 1986 SBE purchased the equipment and process specifications from Sprague to continue the manufacturing of high quality film capacitors. We remain located in the same building where we manufacture the Orange Drop® and 192P Pacer®.
SB Electronics manufactures product for sale to the OEM market, these units are marked with our logo, SBE. We also continue to manufacture the Orange Drop® and 192P Pacer® for Sprague marked with their trademark symbol (ie. Orange Drop)."


Thus proving the point that if components have identical specs and are made from identical materials with identical processes, they WILL sound identical, regardless of name.


But if one wants their guitar to look reaaaaaally cool, it has to say "Orange Drop" on 'em.

After all, the Orange Drop was made by the Rock of Ages.........


;D

[momojinrobot]

"get a job" by Reverend Augustus Montague Toplady!?! I didn't know this.

"Rock of Ages, cleft for me,
Let me hide myself in Thee;
Let the water and the blood,
From Thy wounded side which flowed,
Be of sin the double cure;
Save from wrath and make me pure

Not the labor of my hands
Can fulfill Thy law’s demands;
Could my zeal no respite know,
Could my tears forever flow,
All for sin could not atone;
Thou must save, and Thou alone

Nothing in my hand I bring,
Simply to the cross I cling;
Naked, come to Thee for dress;
Helpless look to Thee for grace;
Foul, I to the fountain fly;
Wash me, Savior, or I die

While I draw this fleeting breath,
When my eye-strings break in death,
When I soar to worlds unknown,
See Thee on Thy judgment throne,
Rock of Ages, cleft for me,
Let me hide myself in Thee"

[4real]

SHOCK! did I read shock?

Sounds like a problem with the amp or possibly an audio interface that has power for condensers or something...

Otherwise, noisy strat...par for the course, all the shielding things still apply...if you don't want do a full number on it, shielded cable throughout can be almost as beneficial, but often harder to do anyway...

If you are getting any kind of shock, it could be a serious problem and a guitar can be a killer...the power can go right through the heart!

Unless, you have a nylon carpet with polyester shirt and plastic soled shoes and you have a tendency to shuffle about as you play...if that is the case...possibly static

pete

[momojinrobot]

Thank you 4real 4 the reply (sorry, that's DD842 ver 2.0 influence, and now that I'm aware of it, another -25 goes to him)

Aug 20, 2008 17:23:50 GMT -5 @momojinrobot said:

it's 2nd hand, no warranty

I experienced the shocks only earlier today. It was a faulty outlet to double outlet extension into which i used to plug my amp.

I removed it and the shocks are gone. However all the other issues remain, the noise, ground touching clicks etc.

I'm gonna ATB (Abate the Beast) and see if it works for me.

If anybody have some other ideas what could the causes be (else of "just your local radio station"), let me know, it'll take me a week to gather all the components to QtB.

for the distance between the picks and strings i tried to lower picks under the guard but it's no use

generally the first is leveled with the pickguard and the other two follow fender standard to mach the distance to the wires.

Thank you all guys!

follow

Aug 21, 2008 13:00:01 GMT -5 @momojinrobot said:

in the post before i mentioned the clicks persists but I lied, they are gone with the shocks, only the noise that can be quieted orienting is still present

as for my playing environment, it's actually very electromagnetically noisy, therefore I hope QtB will help at least a little bit.

as for the shielding, I'm planing things in big.

[ChrisK]

I've known of the Rock of Ages Song, but hadn't known of the Rock of Ages granite company producing Orange Drops for Sprague. Well, I DO learn something every day....

The name "Rock of Ages" likely came from granite being a "rock of ages" (or the founder(s) were religious).


Thanks for the opportunity to learn the actual history of the Orange Drop.

[D2o]

Aug 27, 2008 5:16:19 GMT -5 @momojinrobot said:

"get a job" by Reverend Augustus Montague Toplady!?! I didn't know this.

Rock of Ages

So he's the lead singer for Def Leppard!

[momojinrobot]

Hi momo,

Please check your "messages" (found at the top right hand corner of the home page).

Thanks,

DD

Hi momo,

You have been on this board for less than one month, have posted 14 times as of this writing, and have asked a number of (usually intelligent) questions (and have also made some unexpected comments). In return, you have received, at no expense, useful replies in at least as many posts as you have made since you have joined.

However, we DO NOT smite on this board. We don't even like to talk about smiting. It just is not done here.

I may be misinterpreting some of what I assume is intended to be your attempts at humour ... or maybe your comments are thinly veiled assaults. I don't really know.

I don't know if you really were under the influence of controlled substance yesterday. That may explain the sudden change in the nature and tone of your posts. Were you? - I won't judge if you were, but don't bring it to the forums, please.

I don't know if you decided to take a run at a God. If that's the case, there is nothing special about me ... we're just a bunch of busy guys who take some time out of our daily lives to try to help out. That's just the nature of this forum, and the nature of those who have given freely to help you - and we will continue to be helpful, regardless of anything you do.

But it will not benefit you in any way to attack anyone on this forum (by the way, admin can set anyone's karma to whatever they please, so smiting would not only be bad for the forum, in general, but also totally useless).

I don't know if you are just kidding about the "-" comments. I assume you are, and I ask that you don't.

We work hard to run a clean and respectful forum here, and that sort of humor is not really beneficial to or appreciated on the forum.

Anyway, everyone gets one free mistake before we start to put the brakes on. You have now had yours - no harm, no foul.

But no more references to drugs, no more strange posts, no more music lyrics in an electronics thread, and no more threats (in jest or genuine).

Okay?

See you around the forums, momo.

DD

As long as you think you can offend me, and think I wont reply to your offenses, well, you're wrong.

I can stand to jokes, but expect the same from those who make them.

There was no references to drugs, and if someone do strange posts it's because he must have been reading yours.

If you don't like others going off topic and or jokes, then be exemplar.

Be serious.

If you think my ways ruin the reputation of the site or forum or offends you and the others, you could have said that earlier, and save me from your big ego being directed the wrong way.

I appreciated the help of you all, and pointed this in every response to your helpful replays.

Once again thank you all, I respect your experience and devotion to this board, and a big bow and sorry to all those who I may have offended, especially to DD842 ver 2.0 and ChrisK, and be sure that if someone asks me about some el. guitar problem, I'll promptly indicate him GuitarNuts board where the best support guys can be found.

Farewell

[D2o]

Unfortunately, momo decided to post my Private Message to him.

I am not responsible for him doing so, but apologize just the same.

With respect to references to drugs:

Aug 26, 2008 14:04:34 GMT -5 @momojinrobot said:

Orange Drop caps are always to prefer, no matter what you use them for, tone control or as earrings, they are always the coooolest...!

All others are... unseaworthiness!

I'm not high and I'm definitely not listening to Jimi while writING THIS, OK!?!

... then it just gets weird(er) ...

OH! Driving South is starting, my favorite, sHHhh!!!


SB Electronics is and was the only manufacturer of Orgies Drop... Orange Drop

what did I said...

you know what I'm talking about...

that's what I said Orange Drop...

How does shielding the front cavity with copper tape affect the acoustics of the wooden body, and how would it be replacing the stock pickguard with a copper one?

Note: the color of some portions of text of this peculiar post has been changed to red so you can see it more easily. I honestly thought he was on something.

With respect to smiting, as anyone who knows me is well aware, my view is that there should be NO SMITING on GN2 ( guitarnuts2.proboards45.com/index.cgi?board=coffee&action=display&thread=472 ) A view that I believe is shared by many ...

That view may indeed be shared by momo, as he never did smite anyone - but he made several references to it (see below), which I object to and let him know Privately.

Aug 27, 2008 6:52:21 GMT -5 @momojinrobot said:

Thank you 4real 4 the reply (sorry, that's DD842 ver 2.0 influence, and now that I'm aware of it, another -25 goes to him)

... and ...

As for "What is this ... Welcome Back, Kotter?";, that was improper. You are so mean. -25 (hour by hour, one by one)

... and ...

Aug 26, 2008 15:46:15 GMT -5 @momojinrobot said:

Hi all,

momo is so twisted that he'll add -10 to DD842 ver 2.0 for every smite received,

you choose

that's only my twisted humor, again

are those wires in my strat silver plated?

I bought kapton teflon silver plated OF copper wires to replace them, should I keep the old?

Note: I have bolded what I viewed as a further degradation of intelligent content in the thread. He was hopefully kidding about the wire, but I did not see any reason to respond to his further peculiar questions at that time ...

I have already stated in a previous post that I assume his comments are the result of a twisted sense of humour, which he carried on with ... so, it was intended as a joke, I guess ... maybe.

But I didn't like it so I took him out behind the barn and told him so. I even posted a light-hearted response to his "Rock of Ages" things so that he might know that all is well out in public.

For that matter, all was well in Private too - it was intended to be a private communication to him that would not publicly embarass him or anything. That is, until he decided to post my PM. Oh well.

I disagree with his statement that I should have aired my dirty laundry here on the board, nor should he have posted my PM.

However, he may not have known that PMs can only be seen by the recipient, and - having read my own message, I can see how he may have taken it to be far harsher than was intended.

Farewell, momo - but you didn't have to leave.

Actually, you are welcome to come back anytime, but let's try to keep things on track and on a somewhat more professional, or at least comprehensible, level, okay?

DD


EDIT: P.S. Momo, I probably over-reacted, and you probably did too. What do you say you come back as momojinrobot2 and we start over?

DD[/color]

[gitpiddler]

I've a similar problem with the concrete basement slab in a house with 2-prong wiring. I've grounded this socket best I could but electronics have a tough life here, and I still feel the tingle.

Once I fixed my shielding issues on my instruments thanks to John Atchley, the alien transmissions thru my amp weren't as loud, but 'they're still here'. ;D