talas
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Post by talas on Apr 28, 2009 12:34:54 GMT -5
Hello friends, I'm new here and I'm kind of lost here in "forum labyrinth" right now. I'm sure there was spoken 'bout my kind of problem so if someone knows where the anwser is, please send me a link. I own a Squier standard SSS wich was turned into a HSS. The guy who owned it before me didn't have no knowledge about wiring the guitar so he just put the Seymour Duncan designed humb into a guitar and wired everything together in strangest way. Where can I get the wiring sheme for HSS ? Do you have any idea for modification this guitar? I also have a USA Fender with SD hotrail bridge pickup but this Squier gives me a much "less muddy", clearer and more rock-blues sound than Usa strat wich was checked by the professional service company, especially on gain.I would really like to get this guitar in order - one tonepot for neck pickup, one for bridge. Give me some advice - teach me masters!!!
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Post by talas on Apr 28, 2009 12:40:33 GMT -5
P.S. I also need some advice about "two point" tremolo sistem. If I change this nut with wilkinson roller nut or graphite nut, will strings hold in tune?
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Post by newey on Apr 28, 2009 12:51:12 GMT -5
talas-
Hello and Welcome!
I moved your post over here because it concerns wiring, although we can also deal with the "tremelo" question here as well.
As far as a wiring diagram for a stock HSS Strat, Fender's website (and probably Squier's, too) have wiring diagrams. I'd link you over but I'm at work.
As far as modifications, we have many on our schematics page you can browse. The first question is always going to be "What do you want the guitar to do, or to sound like?"
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Post by ChrisK on Apr 28, 2009 19:48:57 GMT -5
This is close. www.squierguitars.com/pdf/current/Strat/Standard%20HSS%20Strat-%20Service.pdfCan you be more specific about the two point vibrato? A Wilkinson roller nut is a difficult installation job and can't be reversed (undone). It only comes in one width (1 11/16") and may not fit a Squier neck. Both a Wilkinson roller nut or a graphite nut (but not both ) generally will improve vibrato tuning stability (due to reducing string binding, but this also assumes that the vibrato itself is fully functional).
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Post by ashcatlt on Apr 28, 2009 23:17:24 GMT -5
Close? Oh, you mean that it's tone on Neck and Middle rather than Neck and Bridge like he asked. That should just be a matter of moving one wire. Of course, we have heard some tales around here about 7 lug 5-ways which leave off the lug you need for this. We can make it work anyway, though. No, wait! Maybe you mean that the "truth table" at the end of that link is wrong...? We can make it do what it says it does, but their wiring doesn't.
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Post by talas on Apr 29, 2009 7:08:27 GMT -5
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Post by xeroks on Apr 29, 2009 7:30:51 GMT -5
hi how about one of these? www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Components:_Switches_and_knobs/1/Megaswitches.html sounds the kind of thing you're looking for...
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Post by ChrisK on Apr 29, 2009 19:57:29 GMT -5
My point about the Wilkinson roller nut is that it fits necks with a 1 11/16" (42.86 mm) width. A Squier has a specified neck width of 1.625" (41.275 mm). The Wilkinson nut is made of steel. If it is 1 11/16" (42.86 mm) in width, it might overhang the sides of the neck (up to 1.6mm) and cut your hand if it is sharp on its edges. This would be of particular concern if one is a "shredder". That's all.
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Post by ChrisK on Apr 29, 2009 20:04:37 GMT -5
Yeah, it's close. (You know, horse shoes, hand grenades, and tactical nuclear weapons are all sports in which close counts.) Since his guitar is wired in the "strangest way", it's a reference point. Or a beginning. Further "peeling of the onion" has revealed that the Schaller MegaSwitch "E" is what he just might want. Now, depending on where he is and what he can get, other plans might need to grow feet. Based on his email address, I can only surmise that he is probably on Earth. Also, the reversal of the neck and middle pickup ploy might be of interest to him if he is afar from parts interesting.
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Post by fergus on Apr 30, 2009 5:57:03 GMT -5
Both a Wilkinson roller nut or a graphite nut (but not both ) generally will improve vibrato tuning stability (due to reducing string binding, but this also assumes that the vibrato itself is fully functional). One way to find the source of tuning instability, use the trem until you're out of tune then put pressure on the nut-tuner length of the string to equalise tension. If you're still out of tune, give the vibrato bar a slight wiggle or a tap in the opposite direction to the last use, last resort use the tuners. repeat this a few times to see if the problem/s is/are consistent (nut, vib. or tuners) then you've found your problem My experience with roller nuts is....they suck! expensive, permanent, no adjustment, you need to keep them lubed up or they can end up worse than a stock nut. they also sound, for good or worse, significantly brighter than non mettalic nuts. Of course only open string tone is affected.
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Post by talas on Apr 30, 2009 6:30:23 GMT -5
TNX ChrisK! What kind of sound do you get with "reverse" ? Do you have a samole maybe? What is a difference between normal and "out of phase" wired pickup sound? Can I use that sounds in blues, rock?
And TNX to you too, fergus - i found that problem may be with nut. I also heard that roller nut isn't very good. So I will buy a graphite one - don't like bone nut because I'm vegetarian, haha...
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Post by ChrisK on Apr 30, 2009 11:53:57 GMT -5
TNX ChrisK! What I meant was, if you can't get the Schaller MegaSwitch "E", you could use the existing pickups and 5-way switch to get the following; Swap the neck and middle pickups; 1. Bridge 2. Bridge + Neck (the middle pickup moved to the neck position) 3. Neck (the middle pickup moved to the neck position) 4. Middle (the neck pickup moved to the middle position) + Neck (the middle pickup moved to the neck position) 5. Middle (the neck pickup moved to the middle position) Parallel out of phase is very thin sounding (PooP). This can be improved to some degree by using a half out of phase (HooP) method where the out of phase pickup is capacitively coupled to the primary pickup (PhooP). Out of phase is much better (but still thin) sounding when the pickups are wired in series (SooP). If one pickup in a series structure is bypasses with a cap, one gets a brighter sound (ShooP). Acronym'oniously, that is. My daughter used to be a vegetarian; she said it wasn't because she loved animals, but because she hated plants......
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Post by dugg on Apr 30, 2009 12:22:37 GMT -5
The wilkinson roller nuts are tricky even when they're working 'right'. I've replaced one with bone, but it took some woodworking. I did that on a USA strat, so you shouldn't be scared with the Squire. I've never put an LSR nut on a neck, but here's a tutorial link; forwebnow.com/LSR/looks like it shouldn't be too bad.
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