neck+bridge w/ toggle switch

[apo83]

hello,
I have my strat wired with the two tone pots connected on the neck and bridge pickups, not the middle.

I want to add a 2way (on/on) toggle switch so I can be able to activate the neck pickup when sellecting the bridge possition...

What would it be the wiring diagram?

Thanx
Apo

[D2o]

Hi apo, and WELCOME to GN2!

Before you settle on that option - which is a good option, have a look at this idea (click here) and see what you think (pay attention only to the standard wiring and new wiring).

Cheers,
D2o

[newey]

Apo-

D2o beat me to the punch with both the welcome and the link to ChrisK's "Free Neck-On Switch".

If you decide you'd rather have a separate switch to turn the neck on, there are numerous variations.

Here's a diagram for the same thing to turn the bridge pup on which could easily be adapted to do the same for the neck pickup.

In one position, you get the std 5-way switch options, in the other position, the neck pup is on regardless of the 5 way position. It's like a "neck override".

guitarnuts2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wiring&action=display&thread=1888

It uses a push/pull pot, but the wiring would be the same using a separate switch. And you don't need a DPDT switch to do so, since only one pole of the switch is used anyway.

[apo83]

That's very interesting, I thing it will help a lot of people....

I am now thinking a lot of it...
...if I am playing on just the neck with the tone all the way up to "10" and want to switch to the bridge? I will have to do 2 moves (turn to tone to 8 and switch the pickup at the same time)

With the toggle switch I can always have it in what possision I want and change the 5-way switch to each or an other pick up...
I think that suits me better...

I will have it in mind in the future, thnx

Any ideas for the toggle solution?

[apo83]

I have already bought a switch....

So, if I do this? will it work?


And thats what I found searching...
Its a strat diagram with the tone control connected with the middle pickup and activates the bridge when the neck is selected ...I think


I would prefer a second kind of way, as the switch is connected only to the 5way switch lugs

[newey]

Apo-

Now I'm unclear on exactly what you want. Your first diagram translates the "bridge On" version that I posted. It will give you either the std 5-way selections or add the neck to what ever is selected by the 5-way switch.

This is usually done so that one can have B+N (for a Tele-type sound) with the 5-way set to bridge only and the neck switch on. With the 5-way set to position 2 (Br+Mid),and the neck switch on, it gives all 3 pickups at once. Is this what you're trying to accomplish? If so, the first diagram you posted does that.

I guess I'm confused because you later state:

I would prefer a second kind of way, as the switch is connected only to the 5way switch lugs

The second diagram you posted indeed adds the bridge to the neck when the switch is "up" ("up" being an arbitrary designation here, it actually depends on your perspective) and when the 5-way is set to position 5 (neck only). Is this what you mean by "connected only to the 5-way switch lugs"?

If the only goal here is to add the neck in when the bridge pup alone is selected by the 5-way, the second diagram can easily be adapted to do that.

With the toggle switch I can always have it in what possision I want and change the 5-way switch to each or an other pick up...
I think that suits me better...

If the toggle is set to "neck on", you would still have to turn it off and switch the 5-way to bridge as well. If it's off, you're just on the 5-way. Similarly, with the "Free neck on" switch, with the tone control at about "8", you just have to adjust the 5-way. The difference in the neck tone at "8" versus at "10" will be negligible anyway.

The advantage of the "free neck on" concept is that no added parts are needed, and no additional holes need to be added. And it's easily reversible to go back to a stock setup if desired.

[sumgai]

newey,

The two versions are equivalent - the neck-on is only needed, and heard, when the 5-way is in either B or B+M anyways......



apo,

Hi, and to the NutzHouse!

Your diagrams look good. If you want the tone controls to be on the Neck and Bridge pickups, but you want the wires to go only to the 5-way switch, that can be done - looking at the second diagram, simply move the Mid's tone control wire to the Bridge position (where the "Neck On" switch wire is also connected, and you're all done. ;D

HTH




sumgai

[apo83]

I understand what you mean, its just thoughts that I made of how I can do I and what are the benefits of each way...

thats where I need you (and for diagrams advises of course)

So, with the first way, of if you like -your version-, the bridge gets away from the 5-way circuit, right? If a select pos. 1 (bridge) and set the toggle to "bridge off" will I get any sound?
In that case I dont think I like it?

The second one that I sent, first of all I didt know if it was right and if it does what I want (the 5way working at all possitions and the toogle just to add to the circuit the neck whatever is selected).
With that one I have a problems:
My strat, as I mentioned on my first post has the 2tone pots connected with the neck and bridge (not the middle), so this diagram is a little bitt different that my guitars. Its what I made to the first diagram...
What do I do with this one?

[apo83]

Thanx sumgai...

so I added the missing connection (also had some problems uploading pictures)

what do you think of this one?

[sumgai]

Apo,

That also works. Choose whichever you like.



sumgai

[apo83]

I added it and works just fine!!!

Incredible middle-fat tone....

On monday I am getting to the guitar upgrade stage 2 by changing the pickups ... I hope the mailman brings them finally

I am now going back to explore my new tones!!!

Thanx everyone for your help!!!

[sumgai]

Apo,

Excellent! ;D

BTW, you've reversed the labels for the two tone controls in your most recent diagram. I confess that I missed this in my first look, another member PM'd me to ask what was up with your circuit.

While it works as you wish, I have to ask, will you please correct your drawing (the labels), and re-post it? This will prevent confusion for future viewers. Thanks!




sumgai

[apo83]

I hadnt noticed my mistake too, sorry...

So this is the correct:



Of course it would work with the tones connected with the middle and neck pickup...


My strat tone2 was wired to the bridge but I know that on most strats works for the middle.

I hope that I am clear... ;D

I have now corrected all my past diagrams

[sumgai]

Apo,

Thanks! ;D



sumgai