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Post by 1150lefty on Oct 26, 2009 17:58:41 GMT -5
I have an Ibanez with a Lo-TRSII that needs to be raised because of heavy guage strings 11-60. What can I do to shim the saddles? It's just the hard strums that rattle the frets...
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Post by ijustwannastrat on Oct 26, 2009 18:31:14 GMT -5
I'm confused, shouldn't heavier strings make the vibrato RAISE (motion like dive bombing)? I'm thinking this because I've been taught that if you apply the same amount of tension to two different gauge strings, the larger gauge string will have a lower note. So you would need to apply more tension. That is, unless you are drop tuning. If that's the case, welcome to having a Floyd Rose. Is it floating or flat-mount?
Unless I'm misreading your post. Then my foot will promptly be entering my mouth, as a way to prevent me from letting any more words fall uselessly out of my mouth.
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Post by 1150lefty on Oct 26, 2009 20:05:10 GMT -5
I'll try to be more clear... I went to heavy gauge on most of my electrics (and converted a few friends) because it feels and sounds better. The Fender necks are very tolerant with 13-60, and this Wizard neck seems to be holding up to 11-60. I have added trem springs and payed great attention to keeping the intonation as perfect as it was when I first had a pro set it up. This junky Floyd model only lets you get away with so much, so I was at the end of my rope when I put a 60 on. The low action is lower now and the polished frets can't be filed down any more! Surprisingly, it will stay in tune even after a few divebombs and harmonic scream raises. Oh, and I do detune a 1/2 step, sometimes a drop-C#. I've tried B (baritone), but it won't work on the Ibanez. I'm using D'addario 7-string sets since I can't find Zakk Wilde extra heavy anymore. Building my own sets is too expensive.
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Post by ijustwannastrat on Oct 27, 2009 15:39:06 GMT -5
We're going to label these from top to bottom; A, B, and C. Supposing the red thing is your body, yellow-ish cream is your neck, silver is your vibrato. Is your vibrato like A, B, or C? "A" being that the back of the plate of the baseplate is raised, "B" being that it is level with the body, and "C" being that is is lower than the body? Depending on what's going on, you may need to change some settings...... Pictures on your behalf would help also...
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Post by gitpiddler on Oct 27, 2009 21:02:30 GMT -5
Loosen the neck relief, if possible, a little at a time also, to comp for lower action. The springs in the back of the bridge may be too tight. You might try something like strings thru the body as seen in the avatar above. Nice art strat The diagram's OK too ;D
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Post by ijustwannastrat on Oct 27, 2009 21:55:29 GMT -5
Lol, I had an amazing image detailing exactly what I tried to, but it got deleted from my computer somehow....
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Post by 1150lefty on Oct 27, 2009 22:10:04 GMT -5
The bridge is like the "B" guitar. Springs are fine, neck is fine, bends are good. I just need a bit more height. I guess it's not that big a deal, just buzzes when I back off the volume and pick hard to get a jazzy tone.
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Post by ijustwannastrat on Oct 27, 2009 22:50:06 GMT -5
Well I just got my Floyd-Equipped guitar back from a friend, and looking at it, I see no "legit" way to raise the saddles... If you feel comfortable with it, a truss rod adjustment may be needed. Normally if I change string gauge, it's a forever change, and I just swing it past my favorite luthier to have him make sure that it's all good. I don't know how hard you're hitting the strings, but one option is to hit them lighter, and just turn the volume up a tad on those parts. I slaughter the strings when I play bluesy parts on clean settings, but I dig the tone.
I currently have 10-52's on my Schecter, and 12-56 on my Godin. Haven't found the golden gauge for my Parts-o-Caster yet
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Post by 1150lefty on Oct 28, 2009 13:53:16 GMT -5
Mmm - parts-o-caster. ;D
Yeah I put the remainder bass strings from a pack of Zakk Boomers on my parts-o-caster. The Johnson neck I put on it is a bit flimsy, but it stays in tune.
I guess I'll just have to live with the slight fret buzz or switch back to light strings....
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Post by gitpiddler on Oct 28, 2009 18:40:48 GMT -5
I have 1 24-fret, an Ovation 1990 Bird's-eye Collectors ;D I found that it sorta kills strumming at that sweet spot above the 22nd, and the extra frets aren't much use under the bass side. Is there any tilt adjustment at the heel? You can remove the neck and shave a little out of the pocket to tilt it forward and raise the action. I'm a lefty too, but learned to play right-handed Still I feel a little awkward just looking at a lefty, much more so trying to play one
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Post by 1150lefty on Oct 28, 2009 19:14:57 GMT -5
I have 1 24-fret, an Ovation 1990 Bird's-eye Collectors ;D I found that it sorta kills strumming at that sweet spot above the 22nd, and the extra frets aren't much use under the bass side. [glow=red,2,300]Yes, I think the extras are just for solos. the heavy strings seem to yell like they don't want to be touched that high.[/glow] Is there any tilt adjustment at the heel? You can remove the neck and shave a little out of the pocket to tilt it forward and raise the action. [glow=red,2,300]No, and nofreakinway![/glow] I'm a lefty too, but learned to play right-handed Still I feel a little awkward just looking at a lefty, much more so trying to play one [glow=red,2,300]I'm ambidextrous, started out righty on friends' guitars, and righties were all I could find and my parents were too poor and figured I'd lose interest anyway, replaced the bridge on a Model 51 Franciscan classical (still have her!), got a job and bought a righty and reversed it (my only NEW guitar ever), relearned righty...geez 10 years ago, and still feel more comfy playing lefty.[/glow]
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Post by ijustwannastrat on Nov 22, 2009 1:30:15 GMT -5
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Post by chuck on Jun 14, 2010 3:27:03 GMT -5
cant you just buy some shim stock at the hardware store , and cut the necessary shims ? it shouldnt take much , just a little trial and error till you get it perfect.
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Post by JFrankParnell on Jun 26, 2010 0:15:57 GMT -5
yeah, shims or washers maybe? (not sure how your bridge works).
pasted from elsewhere, I think this applies to your problem. Its actually really easy: .
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Post by chuck on Jun 27, 2010 19:35:33 GMT -5
i am talking about shimming the saddles as needed , not the neck angle
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Post by chuck on Jun 27, 2010 19:39:36 GMT -5
i have a 1990 Collectors Edition also .... i LOVE that guitar. there is a 98 Collectors sitting right next to it . they are both wonderful guitars I have 1 24-fret, an Ovation 1990 Bird's-eye Collectors ;D I found that it sorta kills strumming at that sweet spot above the 22nd, and the extra frets aren't much use under the bass side. Is there any tilt adjustment at the heel? You can remove the neck and shave a little out of the pocket to tilt it forward and raise the action. I'm a lefty too, but learned to play right-handed Still I feel a little awkward just looking at a lefty, much more so trying to play one
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