HH + Single, 2 vol. 1 tone

[j201b]

Hi!! Sorry if this question was made before, but I hadn't find it. I'm looking for a winding diagram for a guitar with a HH pickup (neck) and a singlecoil (bridge),2 vol. pots and 1 tone pot. And a 3-way switch. Nothing special at all.

Thanks!

[newey]

j201b-

Hello and Welcome!

I'm not clear on exactly what you mean by a "HH pickup" at the neck. Is this a dual-humbucker (4 coils) in a humbucker size factor? And how many wires come from each coil, including any bare or braided shield wires?

If your intention is to not do any splitting of coils in the neck pickup, and you just want the 3-way switch to select neck/both/bridge, treat the neck pickup just like a single coil pickup- wire the coils together in series so that you have only two wires to the output.

Doing 2 volumes and a master tone control is a bit trickier. The best way to do this is to use a dual-gang pot for the tone control- which is 2 separate pots on a single shaft. This allows you to wire each pickup to a separate tone pot, but with a single knob to control both.

If you just use a master tone pot, with individual volume pots for each pickup, you will have interaction between the controls, which may not be desirable.

We can point you to a diagram, or draw one up for you, if you describe the pickups (with wire colors) that you are using, and the type of switch.

[j201b]

Thanks for your reply! The Neck Pickup is a Fender Wide Range, only two cables. The bridge is the factory singlecoil pickup of a Godin guitar. Your idea of a double tone pot is very good! I'm specially interested in the cap values

And thanks for your welcoming!

[D2o]

I see - after the fact - that newey has already welcomed you and responded.

Listen to him, but since I've already typed this I'll hit "post reply" and throw in my two cents and see if I can muddy the waters that he has just cleared a bit.

Hi j201b - and WELCOME to GN2!

I haven't had time to fiddle with the diagram, but essentially it's the same as this diagram for two humbuckers, 2volumes, one tone and a 3 way - except your singlecoil should just have a signal and signal return (instead of the 5 wires shown in the diagram - edit: after reading your response to newey, it seems that neither of your pickups has more than two wires I guess?).

I don't know if you are familiar with wiring and just couldn't find a diagram, or if this is your first foray into the wonderful world of wiring - so have a look first and then let us know if you have any questions.

Cheers,
D2o

[betweenthees]

Jan 20, 2010 19:32:16 GMT -5 newey said:

j201b-

Doing 2 volumes and a master tone control is a bit trickier. The best way to do this is to use a dual-gang pot for the tone control- which is 2 separate pots on a single shaft. This allows you to wire each pickup to a separate tone pot, but with a single knob to control both.

mixing what you said with the diagram posted by D20 at seymore duncan--

To use the dual gang pot for the tone, would you have to wire it on the other side of the swich?
Treat it as 2 tone pots and put them paralel with the volume pots on the pickup side of the switch?
ive never used the dual gang for the tone pot-


only other thingi would point out is that the diagram has 500k pots (for the humbuckers i would suppose)- this would give a single coil pickup a bright sound vs the 250k --

[newey]

tweener-

With a dual gang pot (or concentric pots, basically the same thing with individual controls), you wire both vols and both "tone pots" (which are of course a single unit) before the switch, same as an LP is wired.

The other advantage of the dual-gang pot is that each pickup can sport a different capacitor value on its half of the tone pot(s) circuit.

Mouser has these, this is the 500K audio taper version, but linear tapers and 250K versions are also available.

www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Alpha-Taiwan/RV24BF-10-15R1-A500K/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtxdMMi52izyvKN9%252b8W2lLSr%252bmDWT8pyW4%3d

[j201b]

Thanks for your reply! It has been very helpful. I have only a pair of duties now... First, capacitor value of the Fender Wide Range. Taking a look at the Fender diagram, it's a .022. But in the Seymour Duncan diagram, it's .047. Any idea about it?

But the other hand... Yes, the two pickups have only two wires. If I follow the SD wiring Diagram, I see (connected to the pots) three wires: bare, green and black. What are the two wires that I have to follow, and what is the one that I have to ignore?

Thanks again!

[j201b]

Oh, well... I was taking a look with more attention... I think that I can follow this wiring diagram www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_2v_2t_3w using a doble tone pot. I suppose that I have to solder, in each pickup, a wire to the back of the pot, and the other following the black wire, right?

Thanks, this is turning into a more easy thing!

[D2o]

Hi j -

re: cap values ... you can stick with the Fender value - SD was for reference to the wiring.

re: wires ... what color wires do each of your pickups have?

D2o

[j201b]

The two pickups wires are the following:

- A black wire coming from the pickup. Inside of it, there are two wires. A white wire, and another wire (black too) that is soldered to the back of the pots.

So I suppose that, following the SD diagram, the white wires of my pickups are the blacks wires in SD diagram(to the pots terminals) and the other wire (black) is the green or bare (to the back of the pot). Is these correct?

Thanks.

[D2o]

j - sounds like you got it!

D2o