This is for a Neck HB and a bridge SC with a std 5-way switch, but as ChrisK points out in response, it can be used for a bridge HB with a neck SC by simply flipping the switch vertically on the diagram.
I've never used this scheme, not yet anyway, but it seems to provide a good mix of HB and SC sounds, given the limitations inherent in the std Strat 5-way style switch. Again, I offer it for your consideration, since I don't know what your cup of tea is here.
Hi bogas - that Deaf Eddie diagram that newey linked to is pretty clever, and probabbly as much as you can get out of a standard type of Strat 5 way switch. You would have to swap the colour codes for the humbucker wires from Seymour Duncan (as on the DE diagram) to Jackson. Also of course, you have your Hb at the bridge, which I think is a better place for it on a hb-single guitar.
The DE diagram is limited by only having two switch poles, which constrains the choice of available tones - and it does very well to get 5 useful different ones. It does not fully disconnect the single coil however, and in positions 1 and 2 it is disconnected from ground but still connected to hot. We try to avoid that when we can because it may result in a slight increase in noise - not a show-stopper though.
More choices for the 5 tones, and possibly a purer switching system could be achieved with a 5-way superswitch (which has 4 poles) in place of a standard Strat switch.
Post by ijustwannastrat on Jul 9, 2010 19:02:09 GMT -5
Since the bucker has 4 wires, why not just wire it like a a strat with 3 SC's? Then you get full bucker in position 2, the bridge side of the bucker with position 1, neck side of the bucker with position 3, neck side of the bucker + SC neck pup in position 4, and just the neck SC in position 5.
I've wanted to do this, but I've not the guitar to hack apart....
why not just wire it like a a strat with 3 SC's? Then you get full bucker in position 2
Wiring it like a Strat will give both coils of the HB at position 2, but they'll be combined in parallel, not series. While there's nothing wrong with that if one likes that sound (I do), it's not what folks usually think of as being "full bucker", since this implies a series connection of the 2 coils.
First of all i wish to thank you all by the time you took with my question. Really, i really do feel kind of stupid because the more i read about this the less i understand. About the first diagram for example i don´t get how the single coil gets turned off, to me it seems that it´s always on, i also don´t see how to reverse the diagram. It must be something really simple that i just don´t see. Moving on. The following diagram shows the best that i could do so far and maybe we can develop from here.
I´m really quite happy with the tone that i get from position 2, because although a bit thinner it gives me much more definition, the sound becomes much less muddier than with the other positions. The only trouble that i now have, is that position 4 gives me the same sound that position 3, and in here i think it could be nice to have a mix of SC and full HB, but i can´t seem to find a way to do it. So here it is:
Thanks a lot once again, and sorry about my english.
About the first diagram for example i don´t get how the single coil gets turned off, to me it seems that it´s always on
The single coil hot is connected directly to the vol pot connection, and the "not hot" is connected to the common lug on the left-hand side of the switch. In pos. 1, which is the Neck HB only, the SC "not hot" is connected to lug #1 on the left side, which is then connected diagonally to lug #1 on the right side. This is then connected to the right-side common lug, which is in turn connected to the volume pot.
So, in position 1, both ends of the single coil end up connected to the vol pot, and the output is shorted out.
i also don´t see how to reverse the diagram.
For your set-up, with the HB at the bridge, you just flip the diagram top to bottom. Lug #1 becomes lug #3, and vice versa. Lug #2 stays the same.
As you show it wired currently, your pickup selections are as follows:
1) SC 2) SC + HB S coil (the coil closest to the bridge, may not be magnetically South) 3) HB S Coil 4) HB S Coil 5) HB, both coils in series.
You indicate position 2 to sound weaker, which may mean that the pickup coils are out of phase at that position. It is the only position where that would matter, as it's the only position with both pickups active together.
You can do better. If you don't want to try the diagram I linked you to, there are other possibilities.
The DE diagram ...... does not fully disconnect the single coil however, and in positions 1 and 2 it is disconnected from ground but still connected to hot.
I looked at newey's linked diagram, and at Chris's response. I did not look at either Deaf Eddie's website itself, nor in the TDPRI forums (no links, too lazy to search....).
Given that, I see the single coil pup as having a direct path to ground (positions 4 & 5), or through the red/white pair and one Hb coil (position 3). In positions 1 & 2, it's going directly to the output "hot" on the other pole of the switch, so while that's not ground, the pickup is not hanging from hot.
As I understand it, I don't think there will ever be a hanging hot problem here. Which, if I'm not mistaken, and if I'm allowed to coin a new term, is true for any Wolfian circuit we may encounter.
~!~!~!~ And belatedly, to bogas,
Hi, and to the NutzHouse!
EDIT: reversed my position numbers to match newey's post, just above.