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Post by jimmypage1stfan on Mar 22, 2011 21:05:20 GMT -5
Trying to wire up my HSH Strat with 2 500k pots, 5 way superswitch, and a coil tap switch. Pickups are a Suhr SSV neck, ML/FL Middle RWRP, SSH+ Bridge. I am going off of whats wired with the Guthrie Govan Signature series minus the "Blower switch" and a coil tap switch instead of push pull. I really can not seem to figure this out and am new to the Superswitch. Heres what im trying to do: 1 - Neck humbucker 2 - Outside coil of neck humbucker and middle 3 - Outside coils of both humbuckers 4 - Inside coil of bridge humbucker and middle 5 - Bridge humbucker Coil-Tap Switch (on/off) - split neck HB, outside coil of neck HB If anyone could help me out that would be great! i leave for a tour on the 28th and want to have this baby ready to go ASAP! I found a wiring similar which is for the Guthrie Govan signature model, but it uses a weird 5 way switch (not sure how to wire it like that on the superswitch), it has wiring for a blower switch that i do not want, and push pull instead of it being a on/off switch. i731.photobucket.com/albums/w...ring310110.gif
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Post by newey on Mar 23, 2011 4:35:29 GMT -5
JPFan- Hello and Welcome to Gnutz2! We had a fairly lengthy discussion last year about the Suhr Guthrie Govan wiring, involving member endoweg modifying his Ibanez with this scheme. Much of the discussion centers on the blower switch, which you don't want, but JohnH's diagram of this may be helpful to you. guitarnuts2.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=wiring&thread=4675&page=1It uses a Schaller Megaswitch™ (aka EYB Megaswitch), as we discussed in the above thread. Converting the scheme to a Superswitch™ is not difficult. Eliminating the "blower" simplifies matters somewhat. Rethink this, if this is to be your primary guitar on tour. This is a fairly complex wiring scheme. While wiring it up may only take a few hours' time, troubleshooting it could take days. These things are best done when you've got time to sort it all, and you're not under the gun to get it completed- or if it's not your main player that you need to have functioning by a given date. EDIT:BTW, your link to the diagram doesn't work.
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Post by JohnH on Mar 23, 2011 14:36:31 GMT -5
Theres not enough time to design a scheme, draw it, sort out the pickup wire colours, build it, test it debug it and fix it by 28th. In your case, If I was in your position, I'd suggest going for something simple (only because of the time, and assuming you need this guitar on tour), such as this by Seymour Duncan: www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=HSH_1v_1t_5w_pushpullIt uses a standard 5-way though this is a more complex HSH that I did, FYI, but I dont suggest attempting it prior to your tour! i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww316/JohnDHewitt/GN2/HSHx15050910a.gifJohn
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Post by jimmypage1stfan on Mar 23, 2011 19:40:42 GMT -5
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Post by jimmypage1stfan on Mar 23, 2011 19:41:51 GMT -5
As for the tour i have 2 other backups, a 58 les paul and a SG custom so im in good hands
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Post by newey on Mar 24, 2011 11:21:01 GMT -5
Your guitar pickups produce only a very small current at a very small voltage, which means the wattage is likewise small (watts= volts * amperes). The smallest values you are likely to find at RS are 1/4 watt, which should cover any potential guitar situation with plenty to spare.
The diagram for the coil cut is fine, assuming that the North coil is the one you want (the diagram shorts the South coil). The choice matters for hum-cancelling purposes in combinations with other coils.
Not to be overly "picky" here, but we like to be precise about language. "Coil tap" is not technically what you're doing here, it should be called "coil cut", "coil short" or "coil shunt"; a "coil tap" is something else entirely.
I didn't double-check the other Guitar Electronics diagram.
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Post by jimmypage1stfan on Mar 24, 2011 22:39:19 GMT -5
Thanks thats what i thought, in terms of language, i just took exactly what the website said and what John Suhr and Ed said. But yes you are correct i want to short the south and have the north side on. This is the same wiring on Guthrie Govans Suhr so i assume it is all Hum Canceling..
On the schematic it has a little NOTE about wiring one of the poles to the pot instead of ground. whats that all about? which way should i do it if i include a SDPT switch to cut the neck south first?
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Post by newey on Mar 25, 2011 3:25:16 GMT -5
The confusion comes about because the Guitar Electronics diagram isn't very specific about which coils are being cut. What the scheme really does is:
1) Bridge full HB 2) Bridge North coil + Middle 3) Bridge South coil + Neck North coil 4) Neck North coil + Middle 5) Neck full HB
The note is telling you to reverse the coil being cut at positions 2 and 4 if those positions turn out to be not hum-canceling, which would mean that the South coils of both the neck and Bridge would be operational in those positions, so as to be opposite of the middle pickup.
What they don't tell you is that all of this assumes that the HBs are identical in terms of the orientation of the N and S coils- probably true if both are from the same manufacturer, but if they're different brands, all bets are off.
You've indicted that you're using all Suhr pickups so presumably this won't be a problem for you.
But, after looking at the GE diagram in more detail, I am wondering what you really mean to accomplish by adding a separate switch to give the neck North coil alone, since the 5-way switch already gives you the neck North coil + middle at position 4, and the neck North with the Bridge South at position 3.
All that you are adding with the extra switch is the neck North coil by itself at position 5. That's fine, if that's what you want, but that switch isn't adding much.
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Post by jimmypage1stfan on Mar 25, 2011 21:01:13 GMT -5
thats exactly what i want to do! just make it so in position 5 i can make it so the north coil is on. So i should wire it like how it is in the diagram right and wire one of the polls to the ground? Also where it shows the outputs from the super switch going to the volume pot. Can i cross over the outputs to any pole and just send one wire to the volume pot or should i wire all three outputs of the super switch seperate? hope that makes since!
thanks for your help man!
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Post by newey on Mar 26, 2011 1:10:34 GMT -5
OK, but you're missing a bet , since you could also have the switch cut the bridge in position 1 in the same fashion.
Yes. Again, be prepared to switch it around if 2 and 4 aren't hum-canceling. To be fully certain beforehand, you'd have tO test the middle coil against the north coil of the bridge and neck pup- opposites attract!
Sorry, you lost me there. Just wire it as per the diagram, your extra switch goes before the 5-way.
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