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Post by sbgodofmetal on May 23, 2011 0:38:24 GMT -5
in an effort to conserve money and still get the work done, I'd like to request if anyone has some routing templates and a flatbed scanner if you could scan them off and post them as close to real size as possible so I as well as others could print out and cut our own templates from?
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Post by cynical1 on May 23, 2011 10:31:54 GMT -5
If you're looking for some of the best templates out there, I would recommend Guitar Building Templates .com. They have body, neck, pickup and control cavity templates for about any guitar you could imagine. They are reasonable and accurate. If you're looking for free...well, this gets a bit more involved. If you can find template files on-line, the majority of the accurate ones will be in a .dxf, .dwg or some other CAD format...which requires software to open them. The software requires a computer. Next, if you do want to re-produce a full size print of these drawings you'll need a plotter, or have access to one. Plotters are expensive. The rolls of paper for them ain't cheap anymore either. If you're looking for free templates on commonly trademarked or copywritten designs then you're opening a whole new can of worms. And if you're looking to sell these guitars produced from these non-licensed templates or drawings then you're opening a crate of worms... [rant] I have some CAD drawings on guitars that I paid the license fee on to acquire the drawings. I honestly don't just give them away on the Internet. Very few responsible or ethical builders will do this either. Expecting to get them for free...well... There are folks out there offering this. The drawings may or may not be to scale, the neck pocket may be accurate, the control cavity and trem cavity may not walk into the pickup routings and the bridge might be close to the neck alignment... If you're going to invest the time and money into tools and equipment, and you want a quality instrument on the back end of the project, you have to expect to spend some money. If you're just hacking around, then take a sheet of poster board to Guitar Center and do a quick tracing while the saleman is flogging an amp to someone else. I'm not trying to come down on you here, but the ghost of ChrisK is rearing it's ugly head on this one. Creating the true to scale drawings and subsequent templates is a very time consuming process. The tools and equipment to create quality reproductions are a significant investment. I've been there and I respect that. [/rant] C1 |
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Post by sbgodofmetal on May 23, 2011 13:48:59 GMT -5
it was just a thought i do have auto CAD either 2001 or 2002 edition but no computer the one i used to have fried about 3-4 years ago and i've not been able to afford one since. l've been looking into the template set from stewmac.com but i can't afford them at the moment
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Post by cynical1 on May 23, 2011 14:02:05 GMT -5
Guitar Building Templates .com has templates starting at around $55.00-$60.00. This includes the body, neck and all pickup and control cavity templates. You really can't find a better deal...or at least I haven't found one recently.
I've e-mailed the owner a few times and he appears to be a very righteous guy.
Is there a particular style or model you're looking for, or are you going for something custom?
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Post by sbgodofmetal on May 23, 2011 14:31:11 GMT -5
There's 2 l want to build for myself both are through body's. One is a warlock, and the other is a les paul. nothing that special as far as the body goes but my choice of pickup types and configuration, hardware, and control configurations are different from the templates available for those 2 body types but its nothin too difficult to convert over.
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Post by sbgodofmetal on May 31, 2011 22:38:43 GMT -5
l took some time today and drew up the template for my LP build i've decided on the esp/ltd style with the sharp bottom cut away. Pic coming soon, my phone ran out of air time. Tried using my girlfriends phone but it wouldn't go through.
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Jun 2, 2011 13:26:42 GMT -5
So any idea's on pickup cavity depths l would just google it but l'm about to leave to go to my girlfriends graduation. She just passed her G.E.D. with 620 out of 800 and was 1 of only 2 ppl out of 40+ students to score high enough to get a scholarship. Well i'm being yelled at to leave so later guys.
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Post by Yew on Jun 2, 2011 14:03:17 GMT -5
620 out of 800, so thats a comfortable 1st then  |
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Jun 2, 2011 22:26:32 GMT -5
Pretty much, she was called first to recieve a scholarship too. lt's been an exiting evening for us both i'll start a thread about it in the coffe shop with some pictures later.
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Post by dazzerr on Jun 21, 2011 15:19:34 GMT -5
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Post by cynical1 on Jun 21, 2011 16:01:46 GMT -5
Nice. The CAD helps. Having CNC capabilities really helps, too.
I'm trying to find a good body route template for a p-bass pickup. The ones from Stew-Mac are too big, unless you're using a pickguard.
Nice guitar, by the way.
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Post by dazzerr on Jun 22, 2011 2:08:15 GMT -5
Thankyou And Yes indeed, The CAD and CNC facilities help very much! I will help you out if I can? Just ask away ;D |
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Post by sbgodofmetal on Jun 22, 2011 5:20:10 GMT -5
Ultimately what l need is an LP body with a tele neck pocket and tele pickup cavities, rear routed elongated control cavity and just add an extra hole to each row for 6 knobs total, and omit the switch cavity.
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Post by cynical1 on Jun 24, 2011 13:34:29 GMT -5
I will help you out if I can? Just ask away ;D OK, I'm looking for a good template for a p-bass pickup that will mount to the body without a pickguard. Most of the ones I've seen are just too big for a body mount. I would guess it's the pickguard route dimensions, + 1/8" clearance with the ears for the mounting tabs on the sides...unless you've got something like that in your stored drawings... Whaddya get for something like that? Happy Trails Cynical One |
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Post by dazzerr on Jul 4, 2011 7:43:58 GMT -5
cynical1: Excuse me for saying but i dont quite understand what your asking? Your looking for a good template such as this? But the problem is...?
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Post by newey on Jul 4, 2011 8:53:34 GMT -5
The problem is, that's to rout for a P-bass with a pickguard. He's doing a rear-routed one and needs a template without the "ears" for mounting. He just needs the pickups coils to "show through" the holes; the ears will be screwed in from the rear.
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Post by cynical1 on Jul 4, 2011 10:01:04 GMT -5
Well, I guess I need to elaborate here. The p-bass pickup is going to be body mounted from the front, with no pick guard. It's going in between two other pickups, which currently have rings, and the standard p-bass body routing template actually walks into the ring mountings. You could lose a cigarette in the gap around the pickup... The standard p-bass routing template assumes you're using a pickguard, so the extra material you hack out of the body will be covered by said pickguard. I've been digging around the Net for a few weeks looking for a good drawing of a p-bass body to make a CAD drawing of what I need, but no joy. This is what I'm looking to do with the p-bass pickup:  Body mount, no pickguard. Your link is exactly the shape I'm looking for, the problem is the overall dimensions. The Stew-Mac template is too big, and I can't get anything from the other vendors to confirm the actual finished size of the hole... My original thought, though not well conveyed, was to take the standard pickguard p-bass routing dimensions, add 1/16" all the was around, and then add in the half-round tabs for the pickup mounting tabs. If it's still a bit vague, let me know and I'll try and clear it up. In the meantime I'm still looking for a good drawing to make a template CAD out of...hope springs eternal... Happy Trails Cynical One |
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Post by sumgai on Jul 4, 2011 10:20:17 GMT -5
c, What's wrong with making your own? I mean, what you're asking for is that the hole(s) in the pickguard be transferred to the body, right? (Plus the ears.) Once you get that traced out, making a jig that places said holes elsewhere along the line (nut to bridge) should be pretty easy, at least for you.....  What I'd watch out for would be the new location doing harm to your intended tone. For insight on that issue, let me refer you to Don Tillman's Pickup Response Graphing App. Navigate up a few pages for more details on the how's and why's of that one, should you feel the need.  HTH sumgai |
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Post by cynical1 on Jul 4, 2011 12:28:52 GMT -5
If I had access to a shop with the right tools I'd have had one made and this would be a mute point...however...
Since our esteemed colleague has access to CNC, that would be the way to go. Trying to swag it with an end mill and a 40 year old tool vice on a drill press ain't my idea of precision...
I had to brush up on my German, but I think I found an .eps that's accurate. I'm going to try and import it into my cheezy CAD program and verify dimensions and call outs.
This is for the only instrument to make it through the Great Purge of the 90's and I don't want to screw it up, or do any moves of the existing pickup locations. The p-bass Lawrence pickup will fit, but the routing has be be dead nuts on to do it.
Humor me on this one...
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Post by dazzerr on Jul 8, 2011 12:42:37 GMT -5
Ahh I understand what your looking for. Well after your in depth explanation Im sorry to say I have no drawings with regards to your problem. Sorry  |
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Post by cynical1 on Jul 8, 2011 17:08:26 GMT -5
I'm working on one. What format does your CNC software import?
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) Although I'd gladly help if you need anything? I could do it really cheap too. I know professional template companies usually charge quite a bit, but their prices are reasonable if you consider what your using it for! As long as your sure your drawings are accurate, I might be able to help... 
