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Post by sumgai on Jun 3, 2011 15:50:26 GMT -5
ash, I knew I had this lurking somewhere in that dust-bin I call my Favorites folder! This is a link to an Audio-To-MIDI program, I thought you'd be interested in at least taking a look at it. www.gromkov.com/faq/conversion/audio_to_midi.htmlMy results were mixed, but if I kept the melody line simple, the output file was usable. Perhaps some tweaking might improve things. HTH sumgai
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Post by cynical1 on Jun 3, 2011 23:48:02 GMT -5
sg- The Audio 2 MIDI link didn't fire, but I did find another piece of software along the same lines on this site that seems pretty clever. Amazing MIDI takes .wav files and converts them in MIDI files. While I haven't had spectacular results with software of this ilk, this one allows you to define parameters that will limit the cross talk and random interpretations from a .wav audio file. I'm still playing with it, but it seems to have possibilities. HTC1
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Post by sumgai on Jun 4, 2011 0:36:38 GMT -5
c1, You say that you can browse the rest of gromkov's site with no problems, except for this particular page? That's strange..... it 'fires' right up for me. Dunno what to tell ya. sumgai
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Post by cynical1 on Jun 4, 2011 1:02:49 GMT -5
No, the page loads fine. The link to download the app returns a 404. Not Found The requested URL www.gratis.com.br/arquivos/distrib/95/audiotomidi.zip was not found on this server.
The server appears to have some issues, too... The name resolves, but no one appears to be home... C:\>pathping www.gratis.com.br
Pinging www.gratis.com.br [200.140.120.29] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 200.140.120.29: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
C:\Documents and Settings\cynical1>pathping www.gratis.com.br
Tracing route to www.gratis.com.br [200.140.120.29] over a maximum of 30 hops: 0 legal-fiction.xxxx,xxxx.com [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] 1 dslrouter [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] 2 98-125-105-1.dyn.centurytel.net [98.125.105.1] 3 GE-0-0-0-0-J2-rt.def.centurytel.net [207.230.202.4] 4 bb-chcgilwu-jx9-02-ae7-0.core.centurytel.net [208.110.249.202] 5 216.156.72.121.ptr.us.xo.net [216.156.72.121] 6 * 206.111.2.206.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.2.206] 7 if-2-0-0-18.core1.CT8-Chicago.as6453.net [66.110.14.33] 8 if-5-0-0-1169.core2.DTX-Dallas.as6453.net [66.110.27.74] 9 if-6-0-0-1275.core4.MLN-Miami.as6453.net [66.198.2.66] 10 ix-1-3-0.core4.MLN-Miami.as6453.net [66.110.68.46] 11 201.10.199.93.brasiltelecom.net.br [201.10.199.93] 12 Oi-10G9-1-0-etce-df-rotd-01.brasiltelecom.net.br [201.10.209.46] 13 BrTC-G5-2-bsace-core01.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.199.193.106] 14 * * * Computing statistics for 350 seconds... Source to Here This Node/Link Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address 0 legal-fiction.xxxx.xxxx.com [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] 0/ 100 = 0% | 1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% dslrouter [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] 0/ 100 = 0% | 2 10ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 98-125-105-1.dyn.centurytel.net [98.125.105.1] 0/ 100 = 0% | 3 12ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% GE-0-0-0-0-J2-rt.def.centurytel.net [207.230.202.4] 0/ 100 = 0% | 4 28ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% bb-chcgilwu-jx9-02-ae7-0.core.centurytel.net [208.110.249.202] 0/ 100 = 0% | 5 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 216.156.72.121.ptr.us.xo.net [216.156.72.121] 0/ 100 = 0% | 6 30ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 206.111.2.206.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.2.206] 0/ 100 = 0% | 7 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% if-2-0-0-18.core1.CT8-Chicago.as6453.net [66.110.14.33] 0/ 100 = 0% | 8 51ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% if-5-0-0-1169.core2.DTX-Dallas.as6453.net [66.110.27.74] 0/ 100 = 0% | 9 78ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% if-6-0-0-1275.core4.MLN-Miami.as6453.net [66.198.2.66] 0/ 100 = 0% | 10 217ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ix-1-3-0.core4.MLN-Miami.as6453.net [66.110.68.46] 0/ 100 = 0% | 11 227ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 201.10.199.93.brasiltelecom.net.br [201.10.199.93] 100/ 100 =100% | 12 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% Oi-10G9-1-0-etce-df-rotd-01.brasiltelecom.net.br [201.10.209.46] 0/ 100 = 0% | 13 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% BrTC-G5-2-bsace-core01.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.199.193.106] 0/ 100 = 0% | 14 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% legal-fiction [0.0.0.0]
Trace complete.Maybe they just shut them down after sunset in Brazil... HTC1
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Post by sumgai on Jun 4, 2011 16:00:52 GMT -5
c1, I wasn't aware that the link itself was dead - I d/l'ed it long ago. Sorry 'bout that. To make up for it, I've attached it here, from my own Messkit. HTH! sumgai EDIT: A newer version of the program is attached to Reply #8, below. Attachments:
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Post by cynical1 on Jun 4, 2011 16:16:25 GMT -5
Thanks. Got it and will play with it this evening.
HTC1
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Post by JFrankParnell on Jun 5, 2011 22:15:24 GMT -5
that could be cool. There are times when i've wished i could "doot doot da loot doot" a melody into the puter and have a midi vst play it. Save tons of time.
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Post by cynical1 on Jun 5, 2011 23:09:44 GMT -5
Well, we don't do a lot of "doot doot da loot doot" in these parts...but what I like about this, since I sold the MIDI keyboard, is being able to play a part on the bass and translate it to a vsti without having to use the computer keyboard.
I started recording parts of my practice sessions a while ago and sometimes there's some pearls in there when I wander off the prescribed lesson plan, but not really for the bass. With the MIDI file I can transpose it anywhere and drop whatever instrument I want over it.
Sure beats the Hell out of trying to remember exactly what it was that I played at one in the morning...especially since most of the good stuff was a mistake to begin with...
Thanks for sharing this one, sg.
Happy Trails
Cynical One
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Post by sumgai on Jun 6, 2011 3:08:26 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this one, sg. You be welcome! ;D BTW, it so happens that I "found" that I have another file by the exact same name, a bit larger in size. Turns out to be a newer version. I've attached that one here, just for your perusal, of course..... sumgai Attachments:
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Post by cynical1 on Jun 8, 2011 21:41:09 GMT -5
sg -
This is the cleanest audio to MIDI app I've ever used. I ran a few bass tracks through it and opened them in Sonar to check for ghosts and residuals. There was very little work involved in cleaning up my mic'd bass track for use as a MIDI source for other vsti's.
You can erase it later, but you're gettin' a +1 for this one.
HTC1
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Post by sumgai on Jun 9, 2011 4:03:23 GMT -5
Now if we can just get ash to drop by.......
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Post by ashcatlt on Jun 9, 2011 10:21:28 GMT -5
Yeah, sorry. I do appreciate the heads up. I followed the original link but was kind of turned off by the remedial English and lack of paragraphs I found. I really haven't had any time to play with things like that. Now that I'm unemployed it seems like everybody's got something for me to do!
Now that cyn has given his squeal of approval, though, I definitely want to try it out. I'd much prefer the convenience of a VST solution, but if it works it works! I hope that there's a way to get it to glitch out and act unpredictably sometimes, too.
PS - While I do appreciate that you're looking out for me, I think this could be of interest to much more of our community. Perhaps the title of the thread should be something a bit more descriptive?
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Post by sumgai on Jun 9, 2011 12:51:47 GMT -5
ash, Name changed as suggested, thanks Yeah, I'm never a fan of Japlish, but sometimes ya just have to wade into the murky waters in order to fish out the tasty morsels.... Sadly, I hadn't realized that the link itself was no longer working - that was embarassing. Fortunately for all, I had the file(s) sitting on my own hard drive, so no real problem after all. While I can understand your desire for an all-in-one program to handle everything, ya gotta remember, this was written back when plugins for the major players were few and far between. Thankfully that's changed for the better in the marketplace, but for all its value to some of us, MIDI is still a relatively small subset of the larger 'audio manipulator' picture. Perhaps some day, probably about the time you finally freeze to death there in Upper Snowville, someone will come out with a VST that can do what this nifty little utility can do. Until then, I suggest you keep on hand a number of sweaters and of course, quilts. ;D sumgai
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Post by 4real on Jun 15, 2011 2:38:12 GMT -5
Thanks for this link, will give it a try in due course.
One of the reasons I moved to reaper was to be able to do the kind of routing many of these require. I also saw the wav to midi but have yet to try that too.
I did discover a lot of these kinds of programs about including some included into guitar sims and synths, but having trouble recalling what they are...of course mono and results may vary.
Interestingly, also found an old tape of me playing a very nice old Korg mono guitar synth I had borrowed back in the early 80's...fantastic sound, very metheny 'off ramp' although supposed to be a bit of a muted trumpet I suspect. I am 'remastering' these old tapes, so might upload that one at some stage.
I even knew a guy who would trigger drum samples with an early guitar synth, and for an audio to midi, this might be a very useful application.
For a lot of things though, I am switching to keyboards, having a new velocity sensitive midi controller...for a lot of things, the keyboard is an easier instrument...however...
I ahve this fantastic new sampled saxophone (freeware) and itching to be able to play it with the fluidity of the guitar. My DI box also ust came in, so should be able to provide a pristine signal for it to work with.
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Post by neilvmcc on Dec 26, 2011 16:21:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, sumgai. I've been tinkering with midi conversion for 2 weeks now and with little success until TS-AudioToMidi. I'll try it with my pedal steel guitar next, stay tuned... -neilvmcc
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Post by 4real on Dec 26, 2011 17:48:59 GMT -5
Welcome to GN2 neilvmcc It's not bad, of course mono...but I was able to give it a try and this and a few others are pretty good. If you search around KVR and other places, you will probably find that these things are still being developed further but it does point the way to some interesting possible futures where guitar and computers might merge even more... Now, if someone had a hex pickup system with true separation...well... think of the things one might be able to do with this kind of thing... enjoy...
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Post by sumgai on Dec 27, 2011 3:26:10 GMT -5
....... Now, if someone had a hex pickup system with true separation...... Errr, isn't the very definition of "hex" a set of six separate output signals? I know, you said 'system', and not 'pickup'. However, what follows from the "amp end" of the cable is your doing, not the pickup's doing! If you don't like mono, you're only limited by your imagination in getting to more output channels. I can't recall just now.... are you using anything from "the big boys" (Roland et al.), or are you just feeding your computer?
neil, Hi, and to the NutzHouse! We do have steeler or two in The NutzHouse, so you may well be able to get some of your questions answered. As it happens, one of them is also a MIDI buff, as am I and several others. Looking forward to your progress reports. sumgai
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Post by 4real on Dec 27, 2011 3:51:56 GMT -5
LOL...I admire Roland's tireless efforts in Midi...but I can't afford them and not even sure I need it. But I know others are interested in other ways of getting effective midi systems and developing software over hardware solutions.
I must say the latest roland floor synth looks interesting and approachable $ wise though...hmmm...no, still cant afford it LOL ...
I'm not the guy to turn audio divided pickups into midi compatibility, but there certainly are some interesting possibilities from the synth world to modelling like variax or just virtual tuning like fenders V-guitar...some interesting technology progressing.
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Post by arimsukof on Jan 18, 2012 5:51:57 GMT -5
Hi all, I was dealing with this topic since 1 year. My target was to convert guitar to midi realtime. I bought Sonuus G2M - it works well, but it doesn't support polyphony and has rather big latency. This year I've tried VST plugin Pitch a b h from bitscrew.com and it working faster then Sonuus, with the same accuracy and some more nice feachures, but still it is monophonic. It's 2012 now! How to convert guitar chords to MIDI in realtime??? (I tried WIDIsoft - too bad)
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Post by 4real on Jan 18, 2012 14:58:50 GMT -5
I really doubt that it is going to happen, at least any time soon. Even with work on 'pitch correction' from people like melodyne there is a huge amount of information to process and decisions made from a polyphonic signal and all that takes 'time'...monophonic is latent enough to work this stuff out and still can be glitch-y....I suspect that real time is out of the question or impractical, at least in the foreseeable future.
The guitar at least will have to come some way too and it is a conservative industry and market there, there are more options for separate string outputs but this kind of thing and guitar synths are still something of a novelty. If the capacity is that important to your music, it is certainly something that needs to be explored. But you never know, someone might come up with a viable "midi controller" guitar that takes the world by storm in the growing home studio environment and change everything as far as the market expectations go and it will become a more common feature wiht more money and technology thrown at it.
A software solution alone...can't see it happening...certainly not in an near future...
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Post by ashcatlt on Jan 18, 2012 15:47:30 GMT -5
It's hard enough to extract one fundamental from the series of harmonics present in a monophonic signal. Add a bunch of fundamentals and their associated fundamentals and it becomes, well... Even the human brain has trouble with this stuff and is pretty easily fooled, and we've had hundreds of millions of years of biological imperative driving our "software development"!
Once you've spent the time and money to try a few of the better options and find them lacking you probably could have gotten a used hex pickup and standalone converter unit.
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Post by JohnH on Jan 18, 2012 17:18:38 GMT -5
Well I think most of the technology although not quite there, is not so far off. For example, the probelm of taking a a strum full of string signals and seperating it into six parts and deciding what they are is addressed on on the latest pedal tuners, which display all string results at once.
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Post by sumgai on Jan 18, 2012 18:47:14 GMT -5
To add more fuel to the fire..... (And arimsukof, Hello, and welcome to The NutzHouse!) Amongst musicians in general, not just guitarists, there is a pervading belief that MIDI incapable of making real music. To hear them speak, you'd think that anything done with MIDI is fakery, at the least. Not so. A short, very short, history if MIDI: In the beginning, Roland and several others sat down at a conference table and hammered out a specification whereby all of their keyboards and all of their synth modules could talk to each other. Interoperability, it was called. And it worked, acceptably so for that day and age (1985). But it was expensive, to be sure. Even today, MIDI gear meets a lot of resistance, primarily because very few musicians want to invest a slug of money into something that may not work out for them. Can't blame them for that, can we. But why wouldn't it work out, that's the magic question. And now we hear the rubber meeting the road, or in other words, it's all in the expectations. Musicians of all stripes, be they beginners or 40-years-experienced, by they traditional orchestral or avant-garde, be they rebels or by-the-book traditionalists, they all have one thing in common - certain, and very personal, expectations. All they wanna know is, can MIDI help them meet their goals - that's their expectation. So, let's focus on our primary instrument of destruction, the guitar. Guitars have not one but six sources of sound (we'll include the rest of the stringed family here, basses, mandolins, banjos, etc.). As ash points out, once those sources are mixed, sonically, then there's no easy way to separate them back out into individual pitches, as per the original source material. Again as noted, even the human brain is easily fooled. Think about it - when's the last time you heard a nice arrangement, and said to yourself "how the hell did he do that?" So you sit down with your axe, and try to figure it out for yourself. Now you know that deciphering that audio stream isn't easy - you can't even figure out where to put your own fingers, and you want a computer to do it for you? So. Why do we call it a MIDI guitar then? Easy - it's a misnomer. It shouldn't be called that at all, not ever. It's a regular guitar that simply has individual outputs for each string, and that's all it is. Call it a hopped up rig, call it whatever you will, but it's not a MIDI rig. Even a Line 6 rig isn't a MIDI guitar, nor is the Roland/Fender Strat with four knobs - they're only souped up guitars that can modify the sounds they normally put out, to make them sound like something else. These guitars, by the way, are properly called 'modellers', they model the output signal based on known mathematical formulae, which in turn is used to control the audio stream. All in analog, insofar as your ear is concerned, but manipulated digitally. Fine, 'nuff said 'bout that. A guitar with a hex pickup can send 6 separate (note that word, separate) signals to a single device, or even to several such, if one desires. (Ever seen my setup? Even I wince, once in awhile.) At that point, the signals can be manipulated in real time to either modify the analog sound, or they can be run through a pitch-to-MIDI converter, and the resulting MIDI data can then be used in very nearly any fashion imaginable. And therein lies the key - what can you imagine that you need MIDI to accomplish? If it's merely a doubling effect, such as making your Strat into a 12-string, or into an acoustic, or into a banjo, etc. then you don't need MIDI, pure and simple. A modeller such as a Roland VG-8/88/99 or a GR-55 will do the job just fine. (There are other units out there, I'm sure they also work as intended, but I wouldn't personally know.....) On the other hand.... If you want to imitate an organ, or a trombone, or a xylophone, or a shamizen, or an oud..... you get the idea - we need a synthesizer. And to trigger a synth unit, we need a reliable communications. Along about this time, you're getting the idea that this is where MIDI comes in. MIDI serves two purposes - make sound, and control it. Generate a pitch, that's Note On and Note Off. Control it, that's things like Volume (or Swell), Sustain, Reverb, Chorus, and just about any other modifier you can think of. Lots of options here, trust me. But the point is, even if you have no need to generate a synthesized tone, you can still used MIDI to control other things. Said other things can be sound samples that you trigger with MIDI - drums are a lot of fun in this realm. Or you may wish to control lighting - imagine every time you play a Low E-string note, the Red light at Stage Right flashes.... Smoke/flash pots on demand, anyone? Truly, the possibilities are staggering. So we're talking about guitars and MIDI, eh? Well, I started it with a simple offering, a piece of software that allegedly does just what it says. Several of you expressed "guarded" delight with the results, meaning that in your lights, it's not quite ready for Prime Time. 4real thinks that it won't ever be, nor any other similar program. ash is pretty close behind him. I'm in that camp too. But that's because I've tempered my expectations. I don't want the software to produce a musical score, note-for-note, but I might want it for a backing track that can give me a beat, complete with syncopation, as thrown in by The Muse ®. (Child's play for good software.) Let me close by saying, simply, that it's the old story of using the right tool for the job, that's the only way that MIDI will stay on your good side. Try to misuse it, and you're gonna give MIDI the bum's rush, no question about it. It can be used to modify things, slightly or greatly, it can be used to embellish with otherwise-difficult-to-achieve tonality, and it can be used to control lots of things. Choose wisely, and your wallet will thank you. <end of sermon> HTH sumgai
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Post by ashcatlt on Jan 18, 2012 19:52:46 GMT -5
Just a little niggle there sg - MIDI per se has nothing to do with sound. It doesn't make sound. (Okay, maybe you could "listen in" on the data stream, but it would be noise that most folks wouldn't want to hear). MIDI messages can be used to tell some device to make sound, but there's no actual sound transmitted through those five-pin cables.
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Post by sumgai on Jan 18, 2012 22:25:28 GMT -5
ash, That was implied in the "... trigger a synth (with a MIDI signal)" statement. I guess I was assuming that even drummers would get that one, but once again, I'm proven wrong. But thanks just the same, anything to make matters as clear as possible, that's the name of the game. sumgai
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Post by reTrEaD on Jan 18, 2012 22:59:11 GMT -5
Just a little niggle there sg - MIDI per se has nothing to do with sound. It doesn't make sound. (Okay, maybe you could "listen in" on the data stream, but it would be noise that most folks wouldn't want to hear). MIDI messages can be used to tell some device to make sound, but there's no actual sound transmitted through those five-pin cables. true. "musical instrument digital interface" It's really about the language and protocol. Well I think most of the technology although not quite there, is not so far off. For example, the probelm of taking a a strum full of string signals and seperating it into six parts and deciding what they are is addressed on on the latest pedal tuners, which display all string results at once. I've not seen these, but I'll take your word for it. This seems encouraging, on the surface. But I wonder how much farther we need to go, to derive a useable set of polyphonic midi instructions from a monophonic signal. The first hurdle that comes to mind is speed of recognition. Taking the better part of a second to extract the 6 fundamental frequencies would not present much of a problem for a tuner. But in terms of a musical performance, that's an order of magnitude or two, too slow. In addition to frequency, we would want to derive separate amplitude information for each of the 6 frequencies. This would likely be quicker and easier than the first part of the task. But it does take some additional time. While not an insurmountable task, it's still rather complicated to de-convolute a convoluted signal, in a timely fashion. Compare that with the "hex" systems in use today. Separate amplitude information for each string is easy to derive. And some simple integration of each string's signal can allow frequency information of the fundamental to be recognized within a few cycles. Maybe some clever minds will be able to create the signal processing hardware and software to come reasonably close to what hex can do right now. And if they can, the benefits will be huge. But I'm still pessimistic about the near future.
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Post by cynical1 on Jan 18, 2012 23:28:09 GMT -5
The hexaphonic pickups have come a long way since their inception. Roland and Axon have put some very nice toys together to tie them into to really push what a guitar can do.
My money is on the GraphTech Ghost System piezo saddles, though. They have really made the interface shine and spent some hard time making it simple and expandable.
Once I toss of the dust of this place I'll be looking to put them into Project #3.
Happy Trails
Cynical One
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Post by ashcatlt on Jan 19, 2012 1:36:41 GMT -5
MIDI serves two purposes - make sound, and control it Thus my post. I know you know what you're talking about. Glad to see you've been taking your meds. I'm very happy to have finally gotten a working GK pickup to drive my GI10. Two problems with it though: 1) I only have one, so my other guitars are jealous. (I'd love to capture MIDI version of every guitar track I record, but often I need to use some other guitar to get the tones I want) 2) I'm too busy lazy to actually play with it. Okay, it does seem to have problems with my "style" as well. Doesn't follow legato phrasing (hammer-ons, pull-offs, slides) very gracefully. Nor does it deal particluarly well with the percusive sounds of fret hand muting because there's really no fundamental to extract. Didn't really realize how much I rely on these techniques till this thing came along. Anyway.... My interest in this type of software is in the ways that it fails. Did I already say that in this thread?
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Post by 4real on Jan 19, 2012 5:42:43 GMT -5
An interesting discussion and certainly demos like C1 posted are impressive. There is a need for midi for all sorts of reasons though it is not a cheap system and still plenty of niggles in them.
The 'proof' of their worth is perhaps in the widespread use of such tools...there is lots of midi based music about, but especially something that is guitar based, there seems to be a lack of anything substantial musically.
That is not to say it is not worthy at all, anything that makes a sound is worthy to make music from. A midi/synth system has a huge variety of timbre.
And, since the 80's things have steadily improved...I can't say that it matches the real thing and from a players perspective a lot of instruments do lack the detail and finesse of a real instrument.
One of the problems with the guitar as a controller is that it does not have the 'range' of say a keyboard or an orchestra really and generally it can encourage people to use it to make things that don't necessarily correspond to natural instruments. The more synthetic things also may well be restricted, a keyboard can hold a note for as long as it is pressed, a guitar has it's own envelope and so restricted in what it can do there.
I'd love to have a midi capability if only for the notation aspect and some of that 'split' things would well suit some of the things I am trying to achieve and explore at the moment...if I could afford it, I think I probably would secret an entire system into my present project and one day I may well make a MKII version that uses things like graphtech saddles or a roland thing to achieve those ends.
I am working on a "hex' system but that is a little different and much narrower scope. There is also many valid things one can do with such a system in many genres and this area has not been fully explored. It is a different thing, zero latency for most things and highly responsive to the touch and peculiarities of the instrument.
As always, one needs to assess what the instrument requires to achieve the musical aims. For me, at this point and with significant budget restrictions and artistic aims...processing signals seems the most logical first step and most acceptable to the genere of 'solo guitar'.
It would be 'cool' to have the sounds of a symphony coming out behind the guitar, but I suspect there would be some adverse reaction and a lot of gear required at this pont (though, who knows, effects and synths may one day be fully incorporated into an iPad like device.
My aim in exploring some of these things is to expand the instrument itself, especially extending the low end.
As far as software devices, it may well be that in recording, one could take selected strings out and use such software from the start of this discussion to make them midi and trigger a string bass or something...but to get that range, I can't see me investing that much nor getting the response required or trusting in that much gadgetry live and signal modifiers like pitch shifters, if one had a selectable strings out capability, would provide all the power necessary to provide that effect and extremely cheaply these days.
But then, we all have different musical goals and there is a big need for a midi guitar controller in the way people use the instrument these days in a home recording environment so encourage all perspectives on such things. To some extent midi is 'fake' in that at best it is triggering 'samples' but things are improving and even the early samplers such as the melotron found fantastic applications in the right hands.
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Post by JohnH on Jan 19, 2012 6:03:59 GMT -5
Well I think most of the technology although not quite there, is not so far off. For example, the probelm of taking a a strum full of string signals and seperating it into six parts and deciding what they are is addressed on on the latest pedal tuners, which display all string results at once. I've not seen these, but I'll take your word for it. I was thinking of this tuner from Digitech: Hardwire HT-6
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