Les strat concept (hss)

[lu peng2]

so my second post here and i should be a question but i guess preparing this post i fund the answer by my self, anyhow i want to shear it maybe there is a better one in someones head ;D

everything is based on this thread and deaf eddies HSS idea:

guitarnuts2.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=wiring&thread=5383&page=1



in deaf eddies original one i love that i can switch from Strat stile single coil standard to les Paul stile HB ( neck series with middle = neck HB) "both HB" together and Bridge HB but i would love to have neck and bridge parallel in series mode position 1 or 2 (pulled) so i came with this)



using this on my Strat for a month i realize that is is to much option and also the nice easy switch from HB to single coil mode was gone! i need to use my tone pot to much to reach the sound i want! so i started to fund solutions and came first with this in order to keep my beloved neck/bridge option!



every sound i want is in it! just not in the right place! i want HB in pulled pos to get also neck/middle series + HB and single coil i want in pushed mode to get standard strat sounds!

also if i wire the HB split opposite so that he shout in single mode it would destroy the neck/ middle and the neck alone in pushed pos!

but during drawing to post here i came with this new solution



guess it makes what i wanted! first i got my simple switch back from standard Strat to Les Paul HB mode like it was in the original from deaf Eddie! plus 3 tones additional and even variable! important is that tone pot 2 is a no load to cut the signal from bridge or it will bleed always in!?

new tones are

pushed
1.Neck + (HB as single coil)
2.Neck + middle + (HB as single coil)

pulled
1.Neck + (HB)
2.Neck + (HB)

() means variable by T2 pot

just bridge wit neck in series is missing or HB single coil in serie with middle but i guess the last one is unnecessarily it would sound like the HB

any comments?

[newey]

Lu Peng-

Have you actually wired this into the guitar yet, or are you just contemplating doing so? With a true "no-load" pot, you should not have any "bleed-through" of the bridge pickup.

You have taken the standard 5-way Strat-type switch about as far as it can go. As you have found, the switch is very limited because it is 5 positions, but only 3 throws, with positions 2 and 4 being "shorting" positions.

A true 5-way (2P5T or the 4P5T) offers more possibilities, but of course the regular Strat switches are much more common, and cheaper. So, I've always been a fan of schemes that seek to get the most out of the regular Strat switch. +1 to you for your efforts on this!

[lu peng2]

My guitar is loaded with the v1 with the t2 as coil split but not much longer !

on Sunday I will change to v3 with t2 as bridge blender! I'm also not sure if I should turn the HB to get the screw coil towards middle so ther is a bigger distance between middle and bridge in single coil mode! And I will solder the tone back from the out of vol to in ! Did't like how it was working the 50s way! Cut to much vol

[lu peng2]

i get already bored with my wiring and want to modify a bit by watching this

guitarnuts2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=modules&action=display&thread=3764

i have some question

I'm not sure how this works, what happen if i using my tone pot as neck on switch and tone pot ? like the first wiring "neck to output"? would it will mess up with my series N x M when i pull my p/p?

or what happen if i use a separate Cap on my blender pot T2? would it be a blender with separate tone in one pot? Like in " neck to bridge" form the free neck switch ideas?

[reTrEaD]

Yes Lu, a "neck-on" wiring for the tone pot would conflict with your series wiring (when the push-pull is pulled). Turning the tone pot to 10 would bypass the middle pickup. I think it would make more sense to wire a "bridge-on" function to the tone pot.

[lu peng2]

but a bridge blender i have already on my T2

what would be the result of a additional cap om T2 would it blend in the bridge and change the tone in the same time?

[reTrEaD]

The cap you added will roll off the treble when the T2 is turned clockwise. When the pot is turned counter-clockwise, the Bridge is blended in. I don't think there will be much (if any) overlap between the two functions. By the time the resistance between the Bridge pickup and volume control is low enough to add a noticeable amount of Bridge, the resistance between the cap and volume control will be so high that the treble cut won't amount to anything worth mentioning.

It will do something, but probably not anything you will find useful.

[lu peng2]

Just for the record!


after messing around with all of them, i went back to the Version HHS Start V1!

it gives me all tones i want and additional i can control the HB strength!

good for live situation, not to punch the band and audience by switching from single to HB