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Post by jtgreen on Mar 7, 2013 20:00:04 GMT -5
I have built an HSH guitar with standard strat switch positions. I would like to mod this to get all the possible sounds of both a Les Paul setup and a Strat. I am installing 2 switches for the humbuckers to split each one. My problem comes with trying to get the bridge + neck combination while maintaining all the strat tones. Is there a way to add a push/pull pot to connect and blend them? Or is there a better way of getting all those tones? Diagram would be useful. ty
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Post by haydukej on Mar 7, 2013 21:32:44 GMT -5
Hello jtgreen, from a fellow, somewhat newish member, welcome to the Nuthouse. I've recently been on the quest for a HSH/HHH configuration that would be the best of both worlds (HB/SSS) as have many others in the past on here. I came across the following thread on here that might give you everything you're looking for. It's worth a check out anyways. The end result wiring diagram is presented below for your reference as well. If it's not ringing all of your strings, it should be a pretty good jumping off point. If you like the design be sure and thank JohnH. HSH Custom Wiring Project
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Post by newey on Mar 7, 2013 23:47:29 GMT -5
jtgreen- JohnH's designs certainly merit your attention. But let me throw out another possibility. From back in the early years of this board, we had a design that used a 4-pole toggle switch to select between H-H settings (like an LP) and SSS settings (like a Strat). Member phy7ajw posted this back in 2006: HSH Switched Between HH and SSSphy7ajw's links therein are long since busted, but his website has the original diagram, so I took the liberty: The way this works, with the toggle in one position, you get the regular Strat SSS sounds on the 5-way. Flip the Toggle, and your 5-way switch now emulates the toggle switch on an LP- except that positions 2,3 and 4 all give the same N HB + Br HB setting like the center position on an LP toggle. So, there's some redundancy there, but also it's easy to switch "on the fly" so to speak.
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Post by jtgreen on Mar 8, 2013 0:26:17 GMT -5
Oddly enough, I found this forum only because of the super 15 diagram by JohnH, which I picked up on google images while in my quest for wiring ideas. Ty for confirming that his diagram is a good starting place. I wish I had found that second diagram before tearing my guitar apart again this week, and buying new hardware. It was closer to my original setup, and probably easier to do, but I already bought a superswitch and push/pull pots. Is there a good place to insert a blend pot for neck/bridge balance, or is this not possible with the super 15 mod?
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Post by newey on Mar 8, 2013 5:51:30 GMT -5
The problem with blending here is that you have both series and parallel combos. You'd want the blend pot wired differently for the series combos vs. the parallel ones. It would work with just the single pot wiring for both, but you wouldn't get very good results when in series. Chrisk had a set-up using a DPDT switch with a blend pot to select for series vs. parallel blending: www.guitarnuts2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=modules&action=display&thread=3863But this adds an extra switch, plus a good deal of complexity.
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Post by jtgreen on Mar 8, 2013 6:00:29 GMT -5
Ty for the link. It does seem to over-complicate things. I might try it anyways, just for the learning experience, but it doesn't seem useful in a live setting. Does series/parallel harm OOP aswell? because that is the other mod I'm trying to fit in here.
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Post by JohnH on Mar 8, 2013 7:20:59 GMT -5
It's excessively tricky to get a series/parallel blender to work properly, without compromising the tone, or working oddly, and without active electronics.
But, a blender for series mode only can be made to work very well. It's a standard 250k linear pot, opened up and a section of track scraped away around the mid setting. Connect the outer lugs to hot and ground before the volume pot, and the middle lug to the wire link at the back of the series/parallel switch. In parallel mode it does nothing, while in series mode it shunts one or other coil, or neither.
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Post by jtgreen on Mar 9, 2013 0:17:17 GMT -5
I wired her up using the super 15 diagram (and it worked great). But I have reconsidered the project, because after hearing the tone of split humbuckers and their combinations, I think that simply a bridge parallel option will yield my imagined tone, without having to think so much about which side of the humbucker I'm using. After readjusting my focus, I have drawn up a new schematic. Will this diagram work, electronically speaking? sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/313463_10151498106948781_313102191_n.jpgnot nearly as many tonal options as the HSH super 15, but I think it will capture my favorite tones from it. btw, i tried the 250k pot for series blending with 2 old ones I had lying around. I'm not sure how I destroyed the first one, but the 2nd one does the job perfectly. I may add it to this diagram later, to replace the one that I have on there.
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