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Post by zirltzn on Feb 25, 2014 5:06:11 GMT -5
my Deluxe AmStrat has S1 5-way switching options. i like the options i canget with the S1 but would like to know what options one could use to do away with the S1 but still get the same options? rotary? p/p?
i'm wanting to upgrade the controls and looking for options other than the S1.
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Post by newey on Feb 25, 2014 6:31:17 GMT -5
The late ChrisK's take on this uses a single DPDT to mimic most of the functions of the S-1. The DPDT can of course be a P/P pot. 3 single coils and the "S-none" switchHe shows versions using the Schaller Megaswitch and also a version using the regular Strat switch.
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Post by JohnH on Feb 25, 2014 14:30:13 GMT -5
The S1 is the push switch on the volume pot. May I ask what you don't like about it? There are many schemes here that get similar sounds with less wiring, but with the S1 plus the superswitch that is with it on an Am Dlx, you can pull off most options.
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Post by zirltzn on Feb 27, 2014 11:03:42 GMT -5
i wouldn't say i don't like it, i was just curious as to other options that were available that others liked.
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Post by zirltzn on Mar 3, 2014 5:52:34 GMT -5
The S1 is the push switch on the volume pot. May I ask what you don't like about it? There are many schemes here that get similar sounds with less wiring, but with the S1 plus the superswitch that is with it on an Am Dlx, you can pull off most options. the pickups are L-45s blades, generally speaking, which value for the S1, 250k or 500k ?
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Post by JohnH on Mar 3, 2014 14:05:41 GMT -5
The S1 is the push switch on the volume pot. May I ask what you don't like about it? There are many schemes here that get similar sounds with less wiring, but with the S1 plus the superswitch that is with it on an Am Dlx, you can pull off most options. the pickups are L-45s blades, generally speaking, which value for the S1, 250k or 500k ? Can't answer that since I don't know what they sound like nor what you would prefer. Can you find out what the maker would recommend? To make a guess based on data Id want to find out the inductance.
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Post by zirltzn on Mar 4, 2014 7:58:25 GMT -5
the pickups are L-45s blades, generally speaking, which value for the S1, 250k or 500k ? Can't answer that since I don't know what they sound like nor what you would prefer. Can you find out what the maker would recommend? To make a guess based on data Id want to find out the inductance. from bill lawrence web page: " As a market standard, 250K pots are for singles and 500K pots are for humbuckers. However, Bill personally, as a player, starts with 500K pots on his guitars for both singles and humbuckers. If he needs to reduce its value, he'll wire a resistor over it. For example, a 500K resistor wired over a 500K control will reduce it to 250K." i was thinking of getting a good pair of tone pots from rs guitarworks and a S-1 & switch from allparts. looks like Bill preferred to start with 500k and put reduce them with a resistor on each outer lug. thats one way. easy way to take 500k down to 250k if they make my l-45s way too bright?
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Post by zirltzn on Mar 14, 2014 23:16:07 GMT -5
i'm gonna put in 500k pots vol & tone. if its too much i'll solder in some resistors. i'll just experiment with it.
appreciate the replies
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Post by newey on Mar 14, 2014 23:42:50 GMT -5
Putting the resistor across the pot does change the effective taper, so it's not a totally benign solution. You can also just use the 500K pot and if it's too bright, turn the tone down to about 7.
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Post by roadtonever on Mar 15, 2014 12:08:03 GMT -5
Typically you'd want 250k pots with the L-45. With 500k posts it could sound kind of cool on the neck pickup though. In that case you can add resistors across individual mid and bridge pickups.
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Post by zirltzn on Apr 10, 2014 18:54:42 GMT -5
Putting the resistor across the pot does change the effective taper, so it's not a totally benign solution. You can also just use the 500K pot and if it's too bright, turn the tone down to about 7. sorry all for delay in a response, i just noticed these replies. i guess i forget to tick notify on reply or something. good info for me, thanks. the pickups are really sweet and not too bright and harsh but a slight bump up i think i'll like. yeah i'm gonna try the 500. i'm thinking 500 for vol & tones. like you mention, a simple turn down to 7 will do too. thanks for your reply
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Post by zirltzn on Apr 10, 2014 19:00:29 GMT -5
Typically you'd want 250k pots with the L-45. With 500k posts it could sound kind of cool on the neck pickup though. In that case you can add resistors across individual mid and bridge pickups. sorry for delay in your message. hmmm, so you know of the L-45's, cool. i've heard that about the 250k. Becky, Bill's wife emailed and said Bill like 500's in his. i didn't even think of your idea ( why i post here! ;-) ) . yeah, the neck pup i think would really benefit from it. yep, i'm gonna try the 500s. you opened some good insight for me. yeah, this will work and have some flexibility. thanks for the insight
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Post by zirltzn on Apr 14, 2014 21:00:38 GMT -5
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Post by newey on Apr 14, 2014 21:22:59 GMT -5
Can't tell what you saw, zirltzn. Did you forget a link?
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Post by zirltzn on Apr 15, 2014 14:59:55 GMT -5
Can't tell what you saw, zirltzn. Did you forget a link? yessir i shore did. there it is, i re-edited my post.
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Post by newey on Apr 15, 2014 17:13:31 GMT -5
Aha, our friend Santellan's site. Santellan pops in here from time to time, so you can PM him any questions. His setup does give you the options of playing around with the values of the pots to see what you like best.
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Post by zirltzn on Apr 17, 2014 15:45:21 GMT -5
Aha, our friend Santellan's site. Santellan pops in here from time to time, so you can PM him any questions. His setup does give you the options of playing around with the values of the pots to see what you like best. yep, that option to play around with those values wold be fun & interesting. thx
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Post by zirltzn on Apr 22, 2014 14:01:48 GMT -5
Aha, our friend Santellan's site. Santellan pops in here from time to time, so you can PM him any questions. His setup does give you the options of playing around with the values of the pots to see what you like best. they don't have a model that will replicate my S1 switching options that is currently on this deluxe strat. nor the series options i currently have. i'm gonna just solder some pots myself and keep the same switching options.
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