Going from a pedal board straight to a PA.

[morbe]

I recently Purchased a Boss Looper rc-300 for Simple Solo Live performances. Its very good and does what I need it to do to include Vocal looping great for adding chorus Harmonies or back up vocals. Awesome Right! Well sort of. There is a separate input for the Guitar (instrument) and a second input for the Vocals. So far so good, Right? well the down fall and here lies my dilema. There is only one output for everything! Simple Just go straight to a PA right, well for me its not so simple im not using this in an accoustical setting I have a Gretch electric guitar connected as my instrumen with a pedal chain as follows: (Guitar-> Original Crybaby-> Tremolo-> Tube Screamer-> Distortion-> Reverb-> Looper-> Amp/PA)
So the Issue I can connect to a PA and the Guitar Tone sounds like crap. If I connect through and Amp Vocals sound like crap. Now In theory Boss Should have given an output for each instrument and vocals independently but they did not. My solution was to look for a very very simple amp modeler pedal to spruce up the Guitar Tone. I dont need this pedal to have effects in it I just need it to Clean up the tone before it goes into looper to get it to sound more like an amp when it comes out of the PA?
Any suggestions?

[newey]

Rather than buying another pedal for guitar tone, why not spend the money on a 2nd looper?

Sent from my SM-G900V using proboards

[sumgai]

morbe,


Fortunately for you, I have one of those. Look on page 33 of your manual.... Therein you will find that you can set which looping phrase goes to which pair of output jacks - Normal or Sub. More to the point, you can set this to be system-wide or patch-by-patch, as you see fit.

At that point, all you need to do is refrain from using one Phrase for everything. Learn to record your vocals on one phrase and your guitar on another phrase, and all will be well. Oh, and you may need to 'brush up' on how to keep those phrases synchronized, unless you've already played with that aspect. For me it wasn't exactly second nature, but I did finally get it to the point where I'm (or was, to be more precise) happy.

HTH




sumgai

[ashcatlt]

To answer the question, though...

The cheapest and easiest way to get into a really good amp sim in a pedal is the Behringer TM300. I honestly haven't used mine a whole lot because I have a lot of other options, but the SansAmp GT2 on which it's based was all I needed for years. I've never A/B'd them, but I didn't ever notice the Behringer to be lacking.

[morbe]

I think i found a solution that will work in the meantime.
When Ashcatlt suggested the TM300 (which is only $25 BTW). I remembered that I have a Vox guitar multi effects board that has an amp sim in it. Its working okay but even in thier clean amp they break up way too fast. I will look into the TM300 Thanks,

Sumgai, I may have got the abridged version of the manual becuase mine doesnt go to page 33?

Thanks again everyone.

[sumgai]

morbe,

This is the link from BossUS that goes directly to a PDF of the full manual:


media.rolandus.com/manuals/RC-300_OM.pdf


The file is just over 16Mb in size, so have patience. After it comes up on your screen, save it to your local hard drive (and then back that thing up!).

(Alternatively, your browser may offer to save it directly to your computer, in which case it's your call as to which action you take first. But when it's all said and done, back it up!)


BTW, just for drill, BossUS shows a list of manuals for nearly everything ever made by either Boss or Roland. Probably not all of them, but certainly more than I need to access.   One might do worse than to bookmark that particular site.

HTH




sumgai

[morbe]

Darn I made a typo, I have the RC-30 I dont think I can separate the channels.

[sumgai]

morbe,

Yes, I don't even need to look.... the RC-30 is too small to have more than one output (pair). Indeed, that also explains why your manual page numbers didn't go as high as mine!

With the introduction of the RC-300, the RC-50 became a "last year's toy", and the used pricing went down accordingly. Same feature set, though with a different pedal layout that then -300. The biggest difference is that the -50 has only 24 minutes of recording time (in stereo) overall, meaning all 99 patches and all 3 tracks added together. The RC-300 has nearly 9 times that capacity, about 3 hours. (Breaking that into Mono means just about double the recording time.)

Around the country (I mean the good ol' USofA, o' course), craigslist has 'em for $250-300 on the low end, and upwards over $400 for those who havae no sense of value. eBay has one for $200, but the rest of them are going for more than $300, with a few of them "inching" up near the retail price ($425, whereas GC was putting them out at $469, last I looked (before the RC-300 came out)). Your used RC-30 should get you into the ball park of needing only some lunch money to "step up", so to speak.

HTH





sumgai