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Post by thedoors on Jan 3, 2006 20:30:45 GMT -5
hey.. i was just wondering if someone could tell me the main points of what you do (not how you do) when you shield your guitar. i'm talking about this so far i got was you do the aluminum foil thing and you ground the tremlo wire, what else do you do? sorry if there's already a topic on this or something
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Post by UnklMickey on Jan 3, 2006 20:54:15 GMT -5
welcome to GN2, thedoors. main points? i guess they would be: - line the cavity with conductive/shielding material.
- line the backside of the pickguard with same.
- keep shielding separate from signal path ground except at star ground point
- replace longer runs of unshielded wire with shielded cable.
- re-configure signal ground path to "star ground" layout
- insure that connections have not been reversed on output jack.
but i'm just guessing here. maybe one of the other members will double check this reply unk
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Post by thedoors on Jan 3, 2006 22:37:33 GMT -5
thanks man... i was trying to figure out what to do but it was confusing haha
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Post by UnklMickey on Jan 3, 2006 22:41:46 GMT -5
somebody suggested "RTFM" whatever that means.
EDIT: that somebody got back to me on the meaning:
Read The "Fine" Manual.
sounds about right. paraphrasing the proceedure is fine to get an overall view of the process. but, you can't go wrong if you study the source.
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Post by eljib on Jan 4, 2006 3:19:15 GMT -5
I suggest you follow the instructions to a "T", and if you're having problems with a specific portion of the procedure, bring it up here in the forum. You're much more likely to get helpful advice if you can be precise about what you're confused with.
Welcome, and good luck!
-Aaron
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Post by vroom on Jan 4, 2006 12:26:52 GMT -5
Yep, follow the instructions, find the parts you need, and get busy.
I was one of the people who was sure he did everything right until putting the pickguard back on and not getting anything but noise when I touched the strings. Turns out I switched the output jack wires. A quick fix and I was in business.
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Post by Mini-Strat_Maine on Jan 4, 2006 13:26:12 GMT -5
The "read the fine manual" crack was mine. (Something that others here have shown great restraint in not saying to me on several occasions.) UnklMickey's capsule version was great, but as he and others have said, do look up "Quieting the Beast" or whatever best applies to your particular guitar. Then go right along with the sequence, so as not to possibly leave out a step and end up worse than when you started. Your guitar and amp (and everything in between them) can give off two basic types of sound: "signal" and "noise." (Sometimes when I play, I think it's signal, but others think it's noise. Whole 'nother topic.) The trick is to minimize the noise, much of which can come from outside the signal chain. Without good shielding, you could end up with everything from 60-cycle hum to stray radio transmissions blatting out of your speaker(s). If you follow the lead of those like John Atchley and others who have already done it, you can pretty much seal up all the places noise can get into your guitar. Good grounding diverts the noise away from the output jack, so all you (and anyone else within earshot) hear is " signal." And in other local news, my first can of MG Chemicals "Super Shield Conductive Nickel Coating" arrived from Electronix Express today. Good stuff for touching up the places where the original shielding paint got scuffed off the inside of my project guitars. (Or anyplace that somebody "forgot" to shield when they were building the guitar.)
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Post by thedoors on Jan 4, 2006 22:25:32 GMT -5
yeah im pretty fucked... it doesn't work, and when there it a connection it's noisy as f k.. if anyone has msn that can help me with this add me please (bmx_metallica@hotmail.com)
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Post by thedoors on Jan 4, 2006 22:43:53 GMT -5
thats what it looks like now, tell me what angle to take another pic if this one doesn't help
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Post by thedoors on Jan 4, 2006 23:18:57 GMT -5
ok.. sorry for all the posts, but i now got it to work and its quiet, but only in one switch position (2nd last down)
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Post by Mini-Strat_Maine on Jan 5, 2006 1:28:18 GMT -5
ok.. sorry for all the posts, but i now got it to work and its quiet, but only in one switch position (2nd last down) Hmm. You mean it's only quiet in that one switch position, right, rather than only getting sound output in that position? Okay, give us some background info first. Is it a Strat (or "Strat-type"), with three single coils and a five-way switch? If so, the switch position you mentioned is either 2 or 4, which should be humbucking. That's a start. Now, have you been to and read over any of the pages linked to from there? It's got info on "stock" Strat wiring, and under "Quieting the Beast," pretty much all the info you could ever need on shielding a Strat (or clone). If you haven't seen that stuff yet, make it your next stop. Also check out , and scroll down to "Troubleshooting Guides." That may help you discover one or more (other) things that it's doing or not doing, which might help diagnose what's wrong.
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Post by thedoors on Jan 5, 2006 16:06:52 GMT -5
it's a strat knock off made by austin with 3 single coil pups and 5 way selector. and when it's in that one switch position it's about the same noisyness as before, so it's pretty much like the shielding did nothing except make the other switch positions noisy as f k.
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