Fender Strat CuNiFe and Tele FeCrCo pickup analysis

[antigua]

Oct 4, 2024 8:51:37 GMT -5 mccready said:

I just received them… along with the Fender 5-way Super Switch. I also have a 250k push-pull potentiometer, a standard 250k potentiometer, and a 0.22 capacitor. Could you draw me the wiring diagram you would use to connect the 3 single coils only to the two knobs of the Nashville?

If you do this 




it uses a standard 5 way selector, and not a super switch. You can make a super switch work, but there are more connections that have to be made, and they take up a lot of space in Tele's control cavity. I'd just but a Strat 5-way selector switch, like this one www.amazon.com/Musiclily-Pickup-Selector-Switch-Electric/dp/B0D3PY6WJ9/ or similar. 

What the 7 mod really is, is using one side of the stock Strat selector switch, combined with the push pull, to make it so that when the push pull pot is "on", and the neck pickup is selected, then the bridge pickup also gets directed to the master volume, so that you get neck+bridge when the neck is selected, and neck+middle+bridge when the neck+middle is selected.

For a Strat, the tone pot situation is a little complicated because it has the two dedicated tone pots for the pickup, but on a Tele, you just have the one  "master" tone pot connect over to the "master" volume, and that's still going to be the case with the 7 way mod when applied to a Telecaster, so just mentally scribble out the tone pots in the 7 way Strat diagram, and leave the Tele tone pot as is with the stock wiring.

That being said, I usually make the tone pot the "push pull pot" so that I'm less liable to hit it when it's pull upwards and I strum down towards it. To make the existing tone control into a push pull, you would just move the tone pot's cap and connecting wires over the pot portion of that push pull, but otherwise leave it all the same as is. 

So if you want to do this in two phases, first replace the tone pot with the push pull, make sure it still works normal. Then do the pickup wiring and wire up the push pull pot's selector switch, and make sure it still works again, and then you're done. 

[mccready]

I'll try. First, I'll attempt to draw a wiring diagram (this will be very difficult for me because even though I've soldered electrical wires before, I've never drawn a wiring diagram myself)... then if everything is conceptually in order... I'll move on to soldering and practical tests. I repeat that it will be difficult for me because I've always only soldered electrical wires together and copied diagrams that I may have just disassembled. Making a new one scares me... ahahaha!!! I'm afraid this will turn into the first Telecaster with an explosive device ever created. 

[mccready]

[mccready]

Hey guys, I gave it a shot and created this diagram. It uses the super I already have. I'd need to buy the other one... and I'm really itching to solder and test out the new Cunife Strat set. I know I went ahead with my idea even though I asked for your advice. What do you think? Will it work? Did I mess something up?

[antigua]

That's a cool wiring diagram, it looks like it does away with using the middle pickup by itself, which I'm sure doesn't bother a lot of guitarists. I don't personally care for series combos of Fender single coils, because the inductance is high and the resonant peaks are usually very low, especially with the CuNiFe set. I'd still opt for the 7 way wiring in the video I posted. I can't be of much help due to limits on my time, but this other sub forum is dedicated to guitar wiring guitarnuts2.proboards.com/board/28/guitar-wiring 

[xymbu]

Hey, I really love your analyses. Do you keep a data repo of all this data youve generated?

[antigua]

Oct 7, 2024 9:46:03 GMT -5 xymbu said:

Hey, I really love your analyses. Do you keep a data repo of all this data youve generated?

This doesn't have pickups that I've looked at in the past couple years, which isn't too many, but it has most of the others www.echoesofmars.com/pickup_data/viewer/ . There is a data file in there also, www.echoesofmars.com/pickup_data/viewer/pickups.csv  I should put it on Github sometime.