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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 18, 2006 18:24:14 GMT -5
I've been looking everywhere about how to wire a switch to act as a tone pot. I use my tone pot at 100% or 0%. Is there a way I can possibly wire a DP6T rotary switch with different capacitors to act as sort of a "tone switch"? I was thinking of 5 different capacitors and one empty spot. Maybe .001uf, .0047uf, .022uf, .047uf and .1uf. I was thinking of using one of these switches because I can get them cheap at radioshack.  |
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Post by dunkelfalke on Jul 19, 2006 1:58:46 GMT -5
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 19, 2006 16:57:00 GMT -5
I know I can buy them at store.guitarfetish.com for pretty cheap. Also I cant speak/read German so I'm lost with that. I'm not asking about a pot. I'm trying to find out how I can switch it, with a switch. Also I dont have room for a battery. Jackson's Randy Rhoads doesnt have enough room for all this stuff (3 pots, 4 mini switches, 1 3-way toggle and lots of wires + a big ol battery)
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Post by dunkelfalke on Jul 20, 2006 1:45:03 GMT -5
no, the c-switch i showed you was exactly what you want. 6 position, one bypass and other 5 are putting different capacitors parallel to the pickup. and it is passive. just saying that actives are better, this is also what the maker of those c-switch is saying. you can read it all up here: www.buildyourguitar.com/resources/lemme/index.htm |
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 20, 2006 22:09:29 GMT -5
Ah... I'm stupid for taking spanish in highschool. This is exactly what I was thinking of  www.guitar-mod.com/rg_passive.htmlI think I could just wire it up like this one. Have all the capacitors connect to a ground. The hot would connect to the output on the 3-Way switch. Does that sound possible? Heres another link to a fairly similar switch. I think these are the same as the c-switches except the c-switch is potted so there is less interference. alexplorer.net/guitar/mods/varitone.html |
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Post by darkcyde on Jul 20, 2006 22:59:13 GMT -5
I did mine a bit different. I used the center for the common. It allows me to get them in tighter. Its pretty straight forward.  |
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 21, 2006 0:07:16 GMT -5
Have you had any problems with it... besides the tedious wiring? What values did you use?
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Post by CheshireCat on Jul 21, 2006 0:41:07 GMT -5
There's one being advertised using a minirotary that gets some 16 different sounds.
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Post by dunkelfalke on Jul 21, 2006 2:02:28 GMT -5
16?
where can you get it?
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Post by Mike Richardson on Jul 21, 2006 2:38:52 GMT -5
It's called a Tonestyler. I have one, but I haven't had time to install it. When I do, I'll post a review. With the knob turned all the way up, you get the sound you'd get on pretty much any guitar with the tone on "10". The next position is actually bypass, which provides a bit of a presence boost. After that, you get 14 different caps, one after the other. If you go to www.stellartone.com, you can get all the gory details. They also have a new model for basses and baritone guitars, as well as sound clips of the original model. |
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Post by dunkelfalke on Jul 21, 2006 3:24:59 GMT -5
100 euros?
ugh, no thanks.
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Post by CheshireCat on Jul 21, 2006 3:30:06 GMT -5
It's called a Tonestyler. I have one, but I haven't had time to install it. When I do, I'll post a review. With the knob turned all the way up, you get the sound you'd get on pretty much any guitar with the tone on "10". The next position is actually bypass, which provides a bit of a presence boost. After that, you get 14 different caps, one after the other. If you go to www.stellartone.com, you can get all the gory details. They also have a new model for basses and baritone guitars, as well as sound clips of the original model. Ah, that's the one. And, incidentally, I notice that it's built off of a Grayhill. Groovy. |
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 21, 2006 20:35:17 GMT -5
You can buy 24 positions rotary switches for a 30 bucks. I've seen rotary switches anywhere from 1 to 24 positions and 1 to 16 poles. What you would do with a 12PST switch... the world may never know. But this is what one looks like.  www.surplussales.com/Switches/RotarySwitches.htmlSince I dont want to wait.... I think I'm gonna stick with a 6 position switch. |
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Post by CheshireCat on Jul 21, 2006 23:17:30 GMT -5
You can buy 24 positions rotary switches for a 30 bucks. I've seen rotary switches anywhere from 1 to 24 positions and 1 to 16 poles. What you would do with a 12PST switch... the world may never know. But this is what one looks like. www.surplussales.com/Switches/RotarySwitches.htmlSince I dont want to wait.... I think I'm gonna stick with a 6 position switch. Well, as tempting as that particular model looks, I think Grayhill may have something just a bit more smallish.  |
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Post by darkcyde on Jul 22, 2006 16:47:11 GMT -5
Come on CheshireCat, dont you want it sticking out the back of your guitar? ;D ;D Makes a nice way to prop it on your belt.
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 22, 2006 19:24:19 GMT -5
Yeah... its a perfectly reasonable size. I mean I have guitar pedals smaller than it. Maybe its the grandpa version.
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Post by CheshireCat on Jul 22, 2006 19:57:14 GMT -5
Come on CheshireCat, dont you want it sticking out the back of your guitar? ;D ;D Makes a nice way to prop it on your belt. Well, if you can find a place for me to squeeze it in, I'll consider it.  |
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 22, 2006 21:51:21 GMT -5
Just lodge it in with the single coil size humbucker. Im sure it will fit there.
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Post by ashcatlt on Jul 23, 2006 0:00:10 GMT -5
This is just to clarify for myself and the other noobs out there.
You're talking about changing the cutoff frequency of the tone control. If you wanted to have a stepped tone control centered around a single frequency you'd use a single cap and various resistors on the switch, right?
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Post by CheshireCat on Jul 23, 2006 0:18:33 GMT -5
Just lodge it in with the single coil size humbucker. Im sure it will fit there. Ah. Hadn't thought of that. Of course, it begs the question, "where will the Sustainiac Driver go?" |
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 24, 2006 14:15:51 GMT -5
Could a polarized capacitor be used on a tone pot or switch? ashcatlt.... That sounds right. If one was connecting it to a rotary switch. The resistors would be wired to the common. The common would lead to the capacitor of choice then out. Very similar do dark's switch Oh and chesh.... thats a massive on/off switch... thats all it does. You can turn off each and every component in your guitar.... or just throw one tiny switch on the out put. I'm gonna go with the massive on/off switch |
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Post by ashcatlt on Jul 24, 2006 23:48:27 GMT -5
yeah, actually I think it would look something like this, only round. And I think that picture there has a bunch of different caps, like what you're talking about. |
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 24, 2006 23:56:11 GMT -5
If I had a double pole rotary switch could i wire the capacitors between the poles, and a jumper for one. Then on the second pole put a jumper between all the contacts and then out. Something like this  Obviously its ceramic to metal film and the grey line on the left would be a jumper or stripped output wire. |
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