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Post by bes on Oct 25, 2022 10:17:08 GMT -5
Thank you.
Yes, this is inside a MiM Strat actually. So checked for real, but this diagram was also checked with the analyzer tool of the program. It's a final version and it is really better to have the neck shorted on 1 & 2 pos, yes. This completes somehow the wonderful MR mod, and I hope it will be usefull for some. The Jazz Bass stacked concentric pot item doesn't exist in DYLC, but as it is stacked, I drew 2 pots with the top layer on top of the other, not the most intelligible, but I can't do better.
I've got into the habit of giving polarity indications to be precise when I'm working on a diag, I prefer to reason with polarized coils and hum-cancelling pairing as much as possible. Didn't know 3PDT was harder to find. We can find that easily in EU (Taïway, Miyama, MEC or others of any kind) and from reseller of electronic components as Mouser for example.
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Post by newey on Oct 25, 2022 11:30:25 GMT -5
OK, so it is a concentric pot. Since you show three separate pots, and since the basic Strat design has three pots, I assumed they were intended to be separate. I assume the toggle switch occupies the third hole, then?
And yes, Mouser (and other) do carry 3PDT toggles, but most guitar parts suppliers don't carry them unless it's a stomp-button type for a pedal. One of the first things we usually tell newcomers here is to use one of the electronics supply houses for ordering parts, rather than guitar parts sellers as Mouser's (and others) prices are usually cheaper and the selection much larger.
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Post by bes on Oct 27, 2022 2:11:49 GMT -5
The Toggle (ref MEC M80020-C or NKK M2032B2B3G01 Ø12mm for exemple) occupies the second hole actually, and the concentric pot is on the third. I find it more ergonomic because of the enlarge bottom knob of the bass contour and the higher top knob than the original for the Treble. BTW, the toggle comes more easily to hand there for fast switching. This changes the look a bit but less than the opposite mount with the Toggle further away on the thrid hole, and the stacked knob too close to the Vol. - tried before.
I also used an empty pickguard (Toronzo 1-Ply) to move the Volume pot down a little, thus freeing up the playing space for the right hand. Only an inch of offset brings much better ergonomics for my taste.
The guitar is equiped with a beautiful Flat Oval Roasted Maple neck, very resonant. Series options are warm and singing with a the right amount of natural compression for the fat rendering.
So happy.
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Post by redmix on Jun 24, 2023 20:12:55 GMT -5
Thank you.
Yes, this is inside a MiM Strat actually. So checked for real, but this diagram was also checked with the analyzer tool of the program. It's a final version and it is really better to have the neck shorted on 1 & 2 pos, yes. This completes somehow the wonderful MR mod, and I hope it will be usefull for some. The Jazz Bass stacked concentric pot item doesn't exist in DYLC, but as it is stacked, I drew 2 pots with the top layer on top of the other, not the most intelligible, but I can't do better.
I've got into the habit of giving polarity indications to be precise when I'm working on a diag, I prefer to reason with polarized coils and hum-cancelling pairing as much as possible. Didn't know 3PDT was harder to find. We can find that easily in EU (Taïway, Miyama, MEC or others of any kind) and from reseller of electronic components as Mouser for example.
Reopening this because I’m really interested in trying this mod, but I’m really picky about position 1 being all 3 in series instead of parallel - How would I go about wiring the switch-up wiring backwards? 1 - All series 2 - B > M 3 - B > N 4 - M > N 5 - All Parallel
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Post by newey on Jun 24, 2023 21:41:24 GMT -5
redmix- Hello and Welcome to G-Nutz2! but I’m really picky about position 1 being all 3 in series instead of parallel The chart in the diagram follows the usual Fender convention of calling the bridge position as #1 and the neck as #5. So, position 1 is all 3 in parallel as shown. The "all series" position is at #5, the neck end of the switch. You have two choices: The elegant and proper way, or the "down 'n dirty" hack way. The "down and dirty" way is to simply wire the switch as shown and rotate the switch 180° before mounting it. This may not work, however, depending on the particular type of Superswitch you're using, your cavity dimensions and so forth. You would also need to leave longer leads on the wires to be able to turn it around. The more elegant way to do it is to simply "mirror-image" the wiring to lugs 1 through 5 on each pole of the superswitch. Leave the common lugs connected as shown in the diagram, but, for each pole, lug 1 becomes 5, 2 becomes 4, and 3 stays 3.
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Post by redmix on Jun 25, 2023 3:59:58 GMT -5
This would also flip round the standard pickup selection however? My ideal setup is as follows, following Fender position convention:
Switch disengaged, normal: Pos 1: Bridge Pos 2: Bridge + Middle Pos 3: Bridge + Neck Pos 4: Middle + Neck Pos 5: Neck
Switch engaged, alternative: Pos 1: All Series Pos 2: Bridge > Middle Pos 3: Bridge > Neck Pos 4: Middle > Neck Pos 5: All Parallel
Trying to work out which poles of the super switch need to be mirrored to get this going
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Post by newey on Jun 25, 2023 7:15:27 GMT -5
Yes, sorry, I misread what you intended. Mirror-imaging the 5-way will mean re-doing all 4 poles, as all 4 are inter-connected via the on/on "mode switch". Now that I look closer, though, the mode switch itself may also have to be redone.
I have to do some work IRL today so I won't get a chance to work this all out at the moment. Give me a day or two, or someone else may weigh in in the meantime.
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Post by redmix on Jun 26, 2023 5:56:33 GMT -5
No problem mate, I appreciate your time!
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Post by bes on Aug 2, 2023 10:18:03 GMT -5
Hi. You can not actually change the Full Series and Full Parallel positions. The switch is an intricate stuff to give all what it offers but in this order. If you change something to get what you want you will irretrievably invert Neck and Bridge on the normal switching. The Series is more compressed and full sounding, the parallel is more open and deeper. I think this order isn't a problem.
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