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Post by reTrEaD on Apr 21, 2023 12:56:40 GMT -5
(with a little help from Eric Carmen and David Foster)
The third tone of the minor iv chord is a flatted sixth, relative to the tonic. Sometimes referred to as the "Nostalgia Note", it is the pivotal note in what Adam Neely calls "the most elegant key change in all of pop music".
Disclaimer: While Celine Dion is an impressive singer, she's also uppity, pretentious, and downright annoying. She's a central figure in this, so be aware you'll have to endure.
Modal Mixture Common Tone Enharmonic Double Chromatic Mediant Modulation
What does gobbbledygook this mean? We'll find out, and in the process gain a bit of understanding the nuts and bolts of how this modulation works and what provides it's impact. While most of us aren't compelled to master this kind of jargon, dissecting it does provide insight. This video is rife with comedic moments, some blatently overt, some subtle. In my opinion, an entertaining and enjoyable journey.
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Post by gckelloch on Apr 21, 2023 16:43:50 GMT -5
That was really interesting. Some examples he gave of Modal Mixture Common Tone Enharmonic Double Chromatic Mediant Modulation escaped me, but it was enlightening. I found this other video of his even more enlightening (now I don't feel so bad about not thoroughly learning Western theory). As Professor Ewel emphasized: it's not a controversial point. It's a fact certain composers admitted to. *video link removed by reTrEaD * |
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Post by reTrEaD on Apr 21, 2023 21:45:25 GMT -5
Some examples he gave of Modal Mixture Common Tone Enharmonic Double Chromatic Mediant Modulation escaped me The other songs Adam mentioned (Love on Top, I Will Always Love You, and Livin' on a Prayer) were simply examples of modulation being employed artfully. However none of them used Modal Mixture Common Tone Enharmonic Double Chromatic Mediant Modulation. If you'd like to discuss ... Modal Mixture or Common Tone or Enharmonic or Double Chromatic or Mediant Modulation or Modulation in general or Reciprocal Intervals vs Overtonal Intervals or any other concept presented by Adam in the video I referenced, we can surely do that here. However, we won't derail this thread by discussion of thoughts expressed by the same author in a video on a completely topic. I've deleted the link to that video. Feel free to start a new thread using that video. Since politics are more than tangential, it's likely to attract more than a few replies. But I encourage you to provide some depth more than just saying it's enlightening as a starting point. |
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Post by gckelloch on Apr 22, 2023 17:26:40 GMT -5
Sorry to rain on your parade here. I saw the other video on the right side of the screen and figured it might be OK to include since it's by the same creator, but it is indeed a very different topic. After consideration, I'm not sure I want to open that can o' worms on this website, so I think I'll just leave it alone.
One thing I've always wondered about chord sequences like those is whether they elicit an emotional response because the harmonic relationships actually trigger something in our physiology, or have we just become conditioned to respond based on association?
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Post by reTrEaD on Apr 25, 2023 1:15:21 GMT -5
One thing I've always wondered about chord sequences like those is whether they elicit an emotional response because the harmonic relationships actually trigger something in our physiology, or have we just become conditioned to respond based on association? Mostly it has to do with the mathematical relationship of the notes. Simple ratios are more pleasant and elicit a feeling of resolution. Complicated ratios create tension. Conditioning and association does play a role that tends to deepen the emotional response. |
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Post by sumgai on Apr 25, 2023 11:27:47 GMT -5
Mostly it has to do with the mathematical relationship of the notes. Simple ratios are more pleasant and elicit a feeling of resolution. Complicated ratios create tension. Conditioning and association does play a role that tends to deepen the emotional response. Uh oh, someone's been channeling W. A. Mozart. Probably not the first composer to assert these findings, but certainly the most noted proponent of such. Many before and since were/are more technically gifted, but mighty few can touch the human soul as can Mozart. I've note before that I have an extensive collection of many artists found in today's more popular genres, but I also have a couple hundred hours of classical music in my library. However, for some reason, I seldom reach past the Mozart in my catalog when I wish to simply relax and enjoy the fire in the hearth, and the cat in my lap. Book not necessary. In fact, a book would distract from my listening enjoyment. sumgai |
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Post by reTrEaD on Apr 25, 2023 13:00:45 GMT -5
Uh oh, someone's been channeling W. A. Mozart. Maybe this time, but usually I channel Victor Borge. |
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Post by newey on Apr 25, 2023 15:35:40 GMT -5
Maybe this time, but usually I channel Victor Borge Made my afternoon   |
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