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Post by sumgai on Dec 24, 2006 15:00:17 GMT -5
ahh, got ya. i was considering going there. then it sunk in that bill gates may be the third anti-christ.... I'm depositing this bombshell here, so that any ensuing discussion won't disrupt the flavor of the thread where the quote came from. Understand, I never worked for Microsoft, not even as a contractor, but none-the-less, I am retired comfortably due to some savvy investing in the early years of Microsoft's stock performance. This link is a 6,000 word treatise by a very respected researcher who asserts that "The Vista Content Protection specification could very well constitute the longest suicide note in history." Go here: www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txtTalk about the merde hitting the ventilateur!! All I can say is, "Uh oh Tyler, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore". sumgai
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Post by dunkelfalke on Dec 24, 2006 15:33:54 GMT -5
as a software developer and someone who works at a microsoft gold certified partner i can say it is a well-known fact, that vista sucks.
btw what is kool aid and what does it have to do with microsoft?
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Post by sumgai on Dec 24, 2006 16:55:48 GMT -5
dunk, The reference is the Jonestown incident in 1989, where several hundred followers of the demented, and un-lamented, James Jones knowingly drank poisened Flavor Aid in order to prove their devotion to him. It was grisly scene, to say the least.
Sadly, Kool Aid has a much higher 'brand recognition' factor than Flavor Aid, so their name came into focus as "to drink the Kool Aid is a foolish act". There is more to this in one of the article's footnotes.
All of this is related to Microsoft in that by slavishly adhering to their edicts, businesses are ignoring the handwriting on the wall, and are effectively committing financial suicide. Or to put it another way, they are drinking the Kool Aid of devotion.
IMO, society in general does not react well to rash and irrational acts of stupidity on this grand a scale. There will be repercussions, mark my words. What form they will take, I can't predict, but I can say this: the good times, they are over. I'll bet my next birthday that relations between consumers and alleged 'content owners/providers' are gonna get worse, much worse, before they get any better.
HTH
sumgai
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Post by dunkelfalke on Dec 24, 2006 17:10:42 GMT -5
yuck. i despise cultists and cultist wannabees (like carlos castaniedo, ron hubbard and likes).
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Post by sumgai on Dec 24, 2006 20:31:58 GMT -5
dunk, But you gotta agree, they do serve a useful purpose, here on this planet. They serve to tell us that if it weren't for brains, we'd be just like them! ;D
Otherwise, they're a waste of oxygen in my book, too.
sumgai
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Post by gfxbss on Dec 25, 2006 0:01:38 GMT -5
haha, i understand sumgai. i remember when i was considering going there. i was working for pizza hut(what i now after working there consider to be the 4th most evil company ever next to only microsoft, wal-mart and starbucks.) when a fellow geek told me about how they enjoy haveing people go to their college, graduate and pay them rather well as soon as they are done. however, they work you to death. then by the time you cant keep up anymore, they have another graduate to take your spot.
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Post by sumgai on Dec 25, 2006 5:00:10 GMT -5
Tyler, I don't ordinarily get personal here at all, but just because I like you, I'm gonna let you in on a little secret..... my wife lasted 13 years there at The Mighty M. What might give your 'friends' pause is that she didn't start working for them until she was 47 years young! And at that, she raised four kids, then returned to the work force. (This was all before I married her.) Right out of college, then worked to death? I don't think so. The moral of the story is, sometimes your friends might mean well, but you shouldn't take what they say to be the gospel truth. Check it out through independent channels, no matter how much you like them. But I can verify that nearly all of the MS employees I personally know look to me as if they enjoy being stress puppies! ;D sumgai
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Post by gfxbss on Dec 27, 2006 0:21:21 GMT -5
alright, thanks sum. i appreciate the wise words. no matter what though, im convinced mr. gates is the anti-christ. oh, and you guys are right. Vista will not go over well. running a very nice comp myself, but w/ a 34 bit processor. i have no reason to upgrade.
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Post by sumgai on Dec 27, 2006 5:04:02 GMT -5
Tyler, alright, thanks sum. i appreciate the wise words. no matter what though, im convinced mr. gates is the anti-christ. oh, and you guys are right. Vista will not go over well. running a very nice comp myself, but w/ a 34 bit processor. i have no reason to upgrade. Where can I get one of those 34 bit processors?! That's gotta be two bits better than the old workhorse I've got now! ;D sumgai
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Post by dunkelfalke on Dec 27, 2006 8:21:58 GMT -5
that extra two bits are the tribute to the two bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.
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Post by gfxbss on Dec 27, 2006 9:25:23 GMT -5
wow, i seemed to combine what mine has and what visa requires. but at any rate, i think you guys got the hint. now i will go and hid under a rock in shame....
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Post by sumgai on Dec 27, 2006 16:22:39 GMT -5
dunk, that extra two bits are the tribute to the two bit company that can't stand one bit of competition. Ah, I see you recognize the same quote I was thinking of. ;D Good time, good times. sumgai
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Post by ChrisK on Dec 27, 2006 20:01:08 GMT -5
Oh, yeah, the American dream, work hard, try, try, and maybe you'll succeed. I made a few similar "investments" in my start-up companies that were comprised of both my money and my time (12-16 hours per day). It could've been a lot worse in outcome.....
I've a 136 bit bit-slice Ada processor that runs with no clocks (asynchronous is), has over 7,000 ICs, consumes 400 Amperes at 5 VDC, and used microVAX's as I/O processors, but that's a different tale....
In capitalism, we call this a business. Business IS warfare. Executives that fail to see this are no longer.
Since complacent IS.
"The secret of business is OPM: Other People's Money and Other People's Margin." (ChrisK circa 1980.)
Mr. William Gates kindly spoke at a monthly Pittsburgh Area Computer Club meeting in the late 70's. He talked about software piracy and the (possible) future of the crappy microprocessor platforms available at that time (pre IBM PC). Many didn't think much of him since most considered software nothing more than "shareware" and he sounded like "the man" (in a late 60's/70's authority kind of way). I enjoyed a brief discussion with him after wards and suspected that he was on to something.....
Two years later, I started doing start-ups.
If there's money involved, IT'S A BUSINESS, NOT A HOBBY.
Yeah, we hate 'em, unless we hold 'em (stock, that is).
;D ;D to the bank, to the bank, to the bank, bank, bank...
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Post by dunkelfalke on Dec 28, 2006 7:13:06 GMT -5
well, i am a tree hugging long haired pacifist.
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Post by ChrisK on Dec 28, 2006 23:20:40 GMT -5
Cool.
Well, look at the bright side of capitalism:
Its fruits enable (some of) us to choose to hug trees rather than everyone having no choice but to (while foraging about the forest).
Options are.
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