eadgber
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Post by eadgber on Apr 8, 2009 3:56:25 GMT -5
Hi , New here great site. So much info It makes me feel even dumber than I look. I'm modding a gtr with a new pickguard and want a new rewire too. It is a 2 humbucker, 3 way toggle, rocker switches coiltap deal right now. Both Humbuckers are 4 wire plus ground. I want to keep it at 1 Volume & 1 Tone but use mini switches for each coiltap & maybe some other mods. I love the GTS pots so trying to avoid P/P pots if I can, maybe for the tone. I also like the treble bleed switch I have on my Vol pot. Anyway just a general question I need to make a decision & research the hows. I want to keep individual coil taps, 1 vol, 1 tone, treble bleed. I have room for maybe another 3 mini switches. As far as wiring it back up & moving & changing the coiltaps to two mini switches I should be ok. I have so many ideas in my head to add some more options but really lack the know hows. What do you all think about these?: * www.guitarelectronics.com/product/WDUHH3T1103* Two on/off/on mini switches that select either top coil/ bottom coil/ or both in series? * adding a Varitone switch? I might also be interested in trying some out of phase or parallel wiring. I don't want to get too crazy, this is a great sounding gtr as is, just think it's a good time to add a bell or whistle. Thanks alot for info, and the site!
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Post by newey on Apr 8, 2009 6:05:11 GMT -5
eadgber-
Hello and Welcome!
You said:
The link you provided to the "21 Sound Humbucker" design does parallel, both between the coils (intra- HB parallel) and between the 2 pickups (inter-HB parallel). I find the parallel HB sound to be very useful.
Unless the individual coils of the HB are different from one another, there is little difference between selecting the top vs. the bottom coil. You should just pick one or the other to split, no need to split both.
Ever popular! However, if you're concerned about fitting 3 mini switches, better check the fitment of that very closely before you commit to using a rotary switch. That also leaves open the question of how you wopuld like the Varitone switch wired, unless you mean "Varitone" as in "wired like an OEM Gibson Varitone".
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Post by ChrisK on Apr 8, 2009 12:21:27 GMT -5
I would suggest that you set up the coil selection switch for the bridge pickup to select the coil of choice (either the screw coil or the slug coil) and then set up the coil selection switch for the neck pickup to select the coil of opposite magnetic polarity (if the two coil poles attract, they're opposite). This will enable hum cancellation when the single coil mode on each pickup are used together. You might also want the phasing to select the opposite coil when out-of-phase. There are some excellent two 4-wire humbucker designs on our site as well! ............. Just say, "hey, gimme some 2 Hum, bazillion combo, hyper-phasing ideas."
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Post by ChrisK on Apr 8, 2009 18:34:12 GMT -5
BTW, the coil select switches don't select either top coil/ bottom coil/ or both in series, nor do they select the sequence of series/parallel/single coil as the drawing indicates.
They select series/single coil/parallel.
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Post by eadgber on Apr 10, 2009 2:45:12 GMT -5
Ok thank you! Yeah I probably better forget that 5 or 6 position roto switch. It's probably more than I want or want to deal with. They just seem like there has to be so many things possible with them(not just a cap selector).It would not fit unless it could replace the toggle switch too. Ok, so would you say the diagram on www.guitarelectronics.com/product/WDUHH3T1103is a good choice for me w/ this gtr? I pretty much want to keep the gtr as-is but maybe add something. The way I understand it is I would still have everything the same but would be adding the parallel options? I really need to study up on how pickups work. I'm pretty much a newb. I've done some amp modding beleive it or not but mostly paint by number help. Yep great site, will be readin n learnin. I also just swapped pu's & added one coiltap on another gtr.Something's not right . I'll ask later.
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Post by JohnH on Apr 10, 2009 4:23:45 GMT -5
I think that diagram is a good use of three toggle switches. The only main sound you dont have is out of phase. But I think the way the overall series/parallel switch SW3 is wired can be improved. As shown, if you move to series mode and have the main tiggle to the bridge, you get no sound. I dont like such dead spots, and it is possible to wire that same switch so in series mode, it overides the main toggle. No biggie, its the same switch anyway. John
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Post by eadgber on Apr 10, 2009 14:37:30 GMT -5
"it is possible to wire that same switch so in series mode, it overides the main toggle."
Is this an easy fix? I didn't know about the dead postion.I'd like to avoid that too. That sounds like I'd be losing my standard bridge alone postion.Thats a pretty important postion to me!
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Post by ChrisK on Apr 10, 2009 17:02:57 GMT -5
Yes. There will be no dead positions with this fix. That will be $1 U. S.
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Post by JohnH on Apr 10, 2009 17:12:53 GMT -5
I'm thinking of this: Wired that way, you can leave your main toggle on bridge (or elswhere) if you want to, then flick between series and parallel with the S/P toggle, SW3. It works so that in series mode, the main toggle connections are bridged together, so it makes no difference where it was set. In parallel mode, all is normal. John
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Post by JohnH on Apr 10, 2009 17:14:29 GMT -5
#$^&%$#%^!!!!
now you have two of them! - yes they are the same. Chris' uses less Ink but mine has nicer colours
Also mine is cheaper 'cos I only want one Australian dollar!
John
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Post by ChrisK on Apr 10, 2009 17:19:01 GMT -5
Well, dang it. You deserve it. You stomped on me while I was a' TBX'ing, and I stomped on you while your were a' colo(u)r'fying. Asynchrony (?) sucks sometimes.
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Post by eadgber on Apr 10, 2009 23:05:28 GMT -5
Very cool, thanks guys! I owe ya all atleast a round of beers. JohnH I'm sorry but that might be American beer (I think you guys call it bottled water I think I will go w/ this layout then. I just need to order the 2 on/on/on switches. I'll try and let you know how it turned out.
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