xeroks
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Post by xeroks on Jun 11, 2009 6:56:52 GMT -5
Hi all I've put together a sample of all the sounds provided by my Xerobucker switch selection. All the samples were recorded in the one take, the only adjustment to the sounds were those controlled by the switches. The active tone controls on my Ibanez ST200 were switched off. The samples can also be heard all joined together, along with my own dulcet tones describing what you're hearing: clean 10Mboverdrive 10MbThey're played in the order of the table - but down the first column, then the second and so on. From a recording point of view, I DIed the guitar into my PC, and miked myself in at the same time. I did the recording using Sonar. After normalising the samples (and, ahem, editing out the REALLY bad playing!) , I muted the mike when I wasn't talking to get rid of the sound of the strings being played acoustically. I applied an amp modeler and a touch of reverb to the guitar track and exported it to wav for the clean version. Then I changed the modeler and exported the overdrive version. There is no other compression, chorus or anything. Then I brought each of the wav files into Soundprobe (an old sound editor), and renormalised again before exporting each section to 192k mp3. I did the renormalising this way round so each sample was at the same level relative to each of the others. I'll post another couple of samples later. The riff doesn't do the PHOOP sounds justice, so I'll elaborate on that. Also, I'll demo what my active tone controls can do to the sound.
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Post by cynical1 on Jun 11, 2009 8:15:23 GMT -5
xeroks -
First off, +1 for putting together such a complete reference of all the options your design includes. I know this took a lot of time to put together and it was very generous of you to put this up on the board. (and working with tables on this board is great fun, too...)
I followed your original post doing my best to grasp the design and all that you were trying to accomplish. I always appreciate a design where the actual operation is easy and intuitive. The pictures of the finished build look very clean and simple on the guitar. To me, this is even more impressive when you understand all that went into it "under the bonnet"
Congratulation on a successful design and built. Very nice.
And again, thanks for putting together sharing the sound clips.
So, what's the next project all about?
Happy Trails
Cynical One
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xeroks
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Post by xeroks on Jun 11, 2009 8:45:52 GMT -5
Thanks!
My aim was a nice, clean look, that's relatively easy to understand, but with plenty of options.
I think the basic idea of the 2 rotaries working in conjunction could easily be simplified into something a bit more for the masses. Maybe remove the parallel in-phase sounds giving you a five way - which you could use a super switch for - and remove the combo option from the other switch.
As for this posting - I got so much help from this board in the design, it was the least I could do.
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Post by D2o on Jun 11, 2009 13:00:13 GMT -5
xeroks - well done!
There are about a dozen of the sounds that I really like - not in relation to anything, really ... I just like the sounds on their own.
What is funny is that there are songs that I really like which have guitar tones that I am quite certain I would not like on their own.
You've got it all in there. Whether you're relaxing at home or laying down something psychodelic as part of something bigger than just you. Very cool.
Congratulations on a good job, and thanks for sharing. +1
D2o
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Post by newey on Jun 11, 2009 18:58:48 GMT -5
When Sumgai created the Sound Samples board, I think this is what he had in mind.
+1, Xeroxs- good job!
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Post by sumgai on Jun 11, 2009 22:57:27 GMT -5
xeroks,
newey calls it correctly!
For contributing above and beyond the call of duty, and by a relative newcomer at that, I also plant a +1 on ya!
Take a breather, then get movin' on your next project! ;D
sumgai
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Post by xeroks on Jun 17, 2009 8:02:47 GMT -5
this excercise has been quite useful to me. I was listening back to the samples, and to my tone deaf ears many of them sound so similar to each other as to be indistinguishable.
the overdriven sounds are particularly bad.
Also the bridge pickup was noticably quieter than the neck. and it was way tinnier than it sounds througha my amp.
I've since adjusted the pickups - moving the neck PU a lot further away, and the bridge bass side closer. It's made the guitar better balanced, and the "both pickups" sounds more distinct.
I've also been listening to the original recording again. I thought initially that the problem was overlossy conversion to mp3, but the problem is still there in Sonar.
The PU setup is part of the problem, so I'll have to rerecord the samples. Also the amp sim set up wasn't ideal - i set the treble so it sounded right with thebassier sounds, forgot that the trebly sounds would therefore be too toppy. Also, however, the amp sim i used isn't very good. I tried backing the gain down a bit, but that didn't help much. I've got another couple of sims I'll play around with, but I may have to record from my real amp, either from the headphone socket or - horrors - via microphone.
Incidentally, since i adjusted those pickups, I've started to love the single coil, parallel, in phase sound. It's not quite stratty, but is getting there. The nice quality I was getting with the PHOOP sounds, however, has diminished a bit, as the balance between the different frequencies has changed.
(edited some of the text for clarity)
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