doel
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Post by doel on Feb 22, 2013 20:24:55 GMT -5
Hello to one and all!
Hopefully I've posted in the right place and hopefully someone can help.
As I'm fairly new here and, fairly new to wiring as a whole you might have to explain things fairly simply to me.
In any case I'm currently working on on assembling a new pickquard setup for a strat-style I picked up (brand is Renegade for those who want it). Specifically what I'm wanting to do is rig it for an H/S pair with 1 volume, 2 tone, and a 3-way selector.
Where I'm stuck is exactly how to wire it all for the two tone pots, one on the neck and one on the bridge.
This might seem fairly simple and I'd have no trouble off a 5-way switch but, that's not the case.
Since it will likely matter, the switch I'm using is a 3-way import lever switch. There's 8 lugs all on one side of the board.
So there you have it. If anyone can offer some advice or a diagram ti would be greatly appreciated! If there's anything else you need to know or want me to provide by all means ask. I very much want this to work!
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Post by newey on Feb 22, 2013 21:58:56 GMT -5
doel- Hello and Welcome to G-Nutz2!I found several diagrams but all showed an Oak-Grigsby style of lever switch, so I drew up a diagram for your import lever switch. If the diagram isn't clear, ask questions. . You don't have to use the 3-way switch to switch tone pots. Since each pickup gets its own tone control, these can be wired, LP style, "across" each pickup, before the switch. The Master Volume then comes after the switch. A few notes on the diagram: First, your pickups may have a bare wire or a braided shield wire, in addition to the two signal wires from the pickup. These are chassis grounds, if present on your pickups, and should get soldered to the back of the pots along with all the other grounds. I have shown the grounds all being collected at the back of the volume pot, but you may use any convenient grounding point. You can also "daisy-chain" the two tone-control pots to the volume pot back, rather than running two separate wires, as I have shown it. Basically, so long as the backs of the pots all get grounded together somehow, you're good. Use caps to taste. The traditional choices would be .047µf for the HB, .022µf for the SC. YMMV. Also, let's have someone double-check my work before you start wiring it up! The two tone controls with a single volume will interact with each other when the switch is in the middle and both pickups are selected. You may or may not like that effect; the same thing happens on LPs and SGs and people seem to deal with it.
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Post by doel on Feb 22, 2013 23:31:49 GMT -5
Many thanks Newey, his is exactly what I was looking for!
Though I feel the need to ask: do I really not use the end lugs? From what I can tell, if the switch is in either end position those are the ones it would be using.
Otherwise, as it stands all three pots are 500k and the tone both have .47uf caps. I'll probably change this later, but for now I just want to get the whole rig working.
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Post by newey on Feb 22, 2013 23:57:02 GMT -5
No. Watch the numbering of the lugs. Notice how: - Both common lugs "C" are wired together. This connects both poles of the switch to output.
- As shown, the lever is set to the neck position. In this position, each "1" lug is connected to its respective "C" lug. The neck pickup connects to the "1" lug on one side of the switch; on the bridge side of the switch, lug "1" isn't wired (since the bridge pickup is off with the switch set to "neck").
- Just the opposite on the bridge side at lug "3".
- At position 2, we want both pickups, so both pickups are wired to lug "2", one on each side of the switch.
Note also that my numbering is wholly arbitrary. I had it 1-2-3 C C 1-2-3, but you may see it reversed, as 3-2-1 C C 3-2-1. It just depends on whether we call the neck setting "1" or "3". Also, I feel compelled to point out that, if you used a 5-way switch with a HB and SC, and if your HB is a 4-conductor type, you could have some additional options.
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Post by doel on Feb 23, 2013 0:34:31 GMT -5
Ahh, I was interpreting it wrong. No worries now I get it.
As for my humbucker, it's not a 4 conductor. I realized when I got it it was limiting but I'm still happy with it.
Thanks again for the help. I'll note how it all turns out!
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Post by pete12345 on Feb 23, 2013 6:21:34 GMT -5
It's also worth mentioning that by using a 5-way 'superswitch', you could have additional useful pickup combinations, such as both pickups in series and an out of phase combination.
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