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Post by reTrEaD on May 24, 2018 8:40:59 GMT -5
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Post by sumgai on May 24, 2018 11:30:35 GMT -5
^^^^ and get a haircut, too!
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Post by ashcatlt on May 24, 2018 12:25:11 GMT -5
I didn't actually watch the video. The headline pretty much says it all. Dude probably is just a tool.
But it does at least tangentially touch on a thing that's been coming up in conversation for me pretty often lately, and that is the problem of trying to value the relative worth of a Human Being via a system of debits and credits and use that to determine the standard of living that this individual actual person with thoughts and feelings and hopes and fears deserves. It comes down to sorting "meaningful contributions" and ranking them, and it just baffles me. I'm not going to go too far into it ATM because I had seven beers in seven hours after I got off work at 22:00 last night and I kind of slept for a while and now I have to pull my crap together and go do it all over again. Maybe once I get my everything omelette with all of the spicy things, I'll be able to make some more coherent points.
But it's also important to remember that households and families come in all shapes and types. Technically the Windsors mostly all still live at mommy and daddy's house. More importantly (and sort of back to my original point) if this guy was visibly disabled - Downs Syndrome, MS... - nobody would dare even think about talking about any of this. But when dude has been failed by every institution that was supposed to help him figure out how to be a human, that's not a disability, he's just a lazy douche. Again, didn't watch it. He probably is just a lazy douche.
But anyway...
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Post by reTrEaD on May 24, 2018 13:08:17 GMT -5
Thanks for posting, Ash. He sure seems like nothing more than a Lazy Douche from where I'm sitting. Nice video, but this seems even more appropriate for the douche, dontcha think?
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Post by cynical1 on May 27, 2018 8:55:52 GMT -5
This guy did an interview on one of the 24 hour news networks where it seemed pretty obvious there was some cognitive dysfunction. Whether this was genetic, or just mom and dad creating their own monster was not indicated.
This is a first world problem as a thousand years ago this guy would have been merely a forgettable link in some lion's food chain. IMHO, we're not an endangered species. Everyone is not entitled to a trophy for merely breathing. This is what happens when you attempt to skew natural selection.
The lesson here is to move into a small one bedroom house once the little bastards turn 18.
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Post by newey on May 28, 2018 7:56:26 GMT -5
The whole idea of "adolescence" was a 20th-century phenomenon. You weren't quite an adult yet, but were no longer a child. Back in the 19th century, we had 8 year olds working in coal mines, and kids grew up quickly. Now, in the 21st century, we have extended adolescence into the 20s (and 30s, apparently, in some cases).
We were on the right track when we lowered the age of majority to 18 for all purposes. One day, you become able to vote, serve your country, order a beer, get married. Now we've backtracked on the drinking age, and we wonder why college students' idea of alcohol consumption is to binge until passing out. Parents coddle their kids throughout adolescence, and then wonder why the kid's still living in the basement at 28.
Not knowing where one's next meal is coming from is a powerful motivator . . .
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Post by reTrEaD on May 28, 2018 12:02:58 GMT -5
The whole idea of "adolescence" was a 20th-century phenomenon. That's part of it, but it seems to me there's much more in this equation. Our entire society has been altered by 'entitlement mentality'. Instead of focus on self-sufficiency, far too many people have the mindset that the world (or in this case the parents) owe us. The inherent correlation between rights and responsibilities has been blurred. Even more heinous, in many cases gratitude for the help one receives does not exist. Giving our children a leg up to advance themselves quickly into a position where they can be most productive, is not a bad thing ... unless that assistance is seen by the children as mandatory on the part of the parents rather than a precious gift. The absence of gratitude seems the greatest casualty here, imho. YMMV. |
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Post by ashcatlt on May 28, 2018 14:17:42 GMT -5
As long as people are allowed to exploit the labor of others and horde the proceeds thereof, all of this argument against "entitlement culture" is just apologist rhetoric. It's the party line of the bosses in a capitalist hell and I'm sick of hearing it. Why do we even have a society if not to ensure the general well-being of every member? The whole thing smacks of priveledge and ableism and is flat wrong. It's all well and good to make fun of one fat lazy pr  ck, but when you start trying to generalize like this you're really crossing a line. The vast majority of such "leeches" have no real opportunity or chance at much more than a hand-to-mouth existence only because the tools to improve their existence are withheld behind a veil of false scarcity. Are you really arrogant or ignorant enough to start dictating which of your neighbors deserves a decent standard of living? Does it make you feel good knowing that you have more than somebody else? The whole bootstrap thing was originally an ironic joke, and an argument for "socialist"-style programs. Stand in front of fence and literally pull yourself over it by your own bootstraps. I'll wait. Now try it when you don't have any boots. "Survival of the fittest" is also a false argument. A big part of what made our species the fittest in our environment over the last few million years is exactly our social acumen and altruism. We literally would not have made it this far if those who could didn't constantly provide for those who can. Whether they're too young or too old or disabled or just not good at whatever, we value them and help them when we can. It's not exactly unique to primates, but it is a large part of what makes us human. And at this point there's no reason that everybody in the world can't have everything they need and most of what they want except that a few p ks really want to be able to say that they have more than everybody else. Imagine for a moment what works of art and science we might have if such a large chunk of our population wasn't crippled by malnutrition and lack of education and forced into menial labor for which they are not actually suited. |
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Post by reTrEaD on Jun 1, 2018 15:48:33 GMT -5
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Post by cynical1 on Jun 3, 2018 10:45:23 GMT -5
This guy should move to Portland. There are herds of his type wandering all over the place out here...
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